Prove Area of Equilateral Triangle

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The discussion revolves around proving the area of an equilateral triangle with side length s, focusing on the use of the Pythagorean theorem and geometric properties. Participants explore the derivation of the area formula through various approaches, including the construction of right triangles and the application of trigonometric functions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant mentions being stuck on understanding where the terms sqrt{3} and 4 come from in the area formula.
  • Another participant asks about the length of the shorter leg in the right triangle formed by the altitude.
  • There is a reference to the properties of a 30°-60°-90° triangle, with a claim that the shorter leg is 1, which is challenged.
  • A participant clarifies that the altitude of the equilateral triangle bisects the opposite side and angle, prompting a question about the length of the short side of the triangle.
  • One participant calculates the length of the shortest side as s/2 and sets up the equation A^2 + (s/2)^2 = s^2.
  • Another participant expresses uncertainty about their computation, stating they obtained [s•sqrt{3}]/2 as the altitude, which they believe is incorrect.
  • Several participants provide a derivation of the area using the formula for the area of a triangle and the Pythagorean theorem, arriving at the expression (sqrt{3}s^2)/4.
  • There is a recognition of a mistake regarding the base of the original equilateral triangle, with a participant noting that it should be s instead of s/2.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the correctness of certain calculations, particularly regarding the altitude and area derivations. Multiple viewpoints and approaches are presented, indicating ongoing exploration and refinement of ideas.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express confusion over specific steps in their calculations, and there are unresolved aspects regarding the application of the Pythagorean theorem and trigonometric identities in this context.

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In chapter 6, section 6.1 of David Cohen's Precalculus textbook Third Edition, page 368, I found an interesting geometry problem.

Show that the area of an equilateral triangle of side s is given as shown in the picture.

The hint given is this:

Draw an altitude and use the Pythagorean theorem.

I drew an equilateral triangle and labelled each side s. I then drew an altitude from B to AC.

I don't know, however, where the sqrt{3} and 4 come from as shown in the picture. This is where I'm stuck. Can someone take me to the next step without completing the prove?

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In the right triangle you've labeled with the right angle, what is the length of the shorter leg?
 
MarkFL said:
In the right triangle you've labeled with the right angle, what is the length of the shorter leg?

You are talking about a 30°- 60° - 90° triangle with a short distance opposite 30 degrees, and it just so happens to be 1.
 
No, not the way you've shown this. You have an equilateral triangle with each side of length "S". The altitude of an equilateral triangle is (1) perpendicular to the opposite side, (2) bisects the angle, and (3) bisects the opposite side. So if each side of the equilateral triangle has length "S" and the altitude bisects a side, what is the length of the short side of the triangle? Then use the Pythagorean theorem to determine the length of the altitude.
 
The length of the shortest side is s/2.

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Let A = altitude

A^2 + (s/2)^2 = s^2

Is this the correct set up?
 
When I solve A^2 + (s/2)^2 = s^2 for A, I get [s•sqrt{3}]/2. This is not right.
 
$$\triangle{ABC}=\frac{s}{2}\cdot s\sin60^\circ=\frac{s}{2}\cdot\frac{s\sqrt3}{2}=\frac{\sqrt3s^2}{4}$$

Using the Pythagorean theorem and $\triangle{ABC}=\frac{b\cdot h}{2}$, where $b$ is the length of the base of the triangle and $h$ is the height,

$$\triangle{ABC}=\sqrt{s^2-\frac{s^2}{4}}\cdot\frac s2=\sqrt{\frac{3s^2}{4}}\cdot\frac s2=\frac{\sqrt3s}{2}\cdot\frac s2=\frac{\sqrt3s^2}{4}$$
 
greg1313 said:
$$\triangle{ABC}=\frac{s}{2}\cdot s\sin60^\circ=\frac{s}{2}\cdot\frac{s\sqrt3}{2}=\frac{\sqrt3s^2}{4}$$

Using the Pythagorean theorem and $\triangle{ABC}=\frac{b\cdot h}{2}$, where $b$ is the length of the base of the triangle and $h$ is the height,

$$\triangle{ABC}=\sqrt{s^2-\frac{s^2}{4}}\cdot\frac s2=\sqrt{\frac{3s^2}{4}}\cdot\frac s2=\frac{\sqrt3s}{2}\cdot\frac s2=\frac{\sqrt3s^2}{4}$$

You guys are truly amazing mathematicians. I thought the shortest side is s/2. I was wrong. Solving A^2 + (s/2)^2 = s^2 for A is wrong. I wonder what I did wrong in my computation.
 
When you divide the equilateral triangle into two right triangles to use the Pythagorean theorem to get the height, the base of each right triangle is s/2. But the base of the original equilateral triangle is twice that- s.
 
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Country Boy said:
When you divide the equilateral triangle into two right triangles to use the Pythagorean theorem to get the height, the base of each right triangle is s/2. But the base of the original equilateral triangle is twice that- s.

Yes, I forgot. The base of the original triangle is (s/2) + (s/2) = s.
 

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