Prove Continuity From Precise Definition of Limit

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The discussion revolves around proving continuity from the precise definition of a limit, specifically focusing on continuity at a point and the relationship between limits and function values. Participants are exploring various approaches to articulate and structure their proofs effectively.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the organization of proofs, with some suggesting clearer definitions and structures. The original poster attempts to establish continuity at a specific point and connect it to the limit of the function. Others introduce an alternative formulation of continuity using sequences, questioning the common teaching methods.

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There is an ongoing exchange of feedback regarding the clarity and structure of the proofs presented. Some participants have offered guidance on how to improve the organization of the original poster's proof, while others have shared alternative methods that may simplify the argument. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to refine understanding without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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Participants note the importance of clearly defining variables and assumptions, such as the point of continuity and the epsilon-delta definition. There is also mention of the original poster's attempt to convey their proof through an attached image, which has been critiqued for clarity.

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Homework Statement
The problem tells us f is continuous at 0 and that if f(a+b) = f(a)+f(b) then prove f is continuous at every number.
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The solution in the book used a different approach but I am trying to start with the precise definition of continuity and prove from there.

For all epsilon >0 there exists delta >0 ST
|f(x)-f(c)|<epsilon. When. 0<|x-c|<delta
I attached my attemp at the solution. I am trying to start with continuity at 0 and end up with limit of f(x) equals f(c) as x goes to c.

Could someone take a look at the attached image and let me know if I am on the right track or where I went astray

Sorry picture is rotated I tried but can’t get it to come in right.
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Although your description of your proof is straightforward, the organization of your proof is confusing. It's hard to see if it is correct.
It's not clear that it is following your description: "I am trying to start with continuity at 0 and end up with limit of f(x) equals f(c) as x goes to c."
1) You should start in a way that briefly makes it clear which point continuity is being established (i.e. define ##c\in\mathbb{R}##). Also define ##\epsilon\gt 0##.
2) Use the continuity of ##f()## at 0 to get ##\delta##:
3) Use that ##\delta## to prove continuity at ##c##:
 
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Note that there is an alternative, equivalent formulation of continuity using sequences, which is often useful for proofs. It's fairly to simple to show that ##f## is continuous at ##x## iff for every sequence ##x_n## that converges to ##x##, the sequence ##f(x_n)## converges to ##f(x)##. I'm not sure why this is not taught more widely.

Anyway, in this case, you could use that alternative definition for a nice, simple proof.
 
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Although your description of your proof is straightforward, the organization of your proof is confusing. It's hard to see if it is correct.
It's not clear that it is following your description: "I am trying to start with continuity at 0 and end up with limit of f(x) equals f(c) as x goes to c."
1) You should start in a way that briefly makes it clear which point continuity is being established (i.e. define ##c\in\mathbb{R}##). Also define ##\epsilon\gt 0##.
2) Use the continuity of ##f()## at 0 to get ##\delta##:
3) Use that ##\delta## to prove continuity at ##c##:
@FactChecker Thanks for the reply. I agree I let out details and was unclear. I tried to be more detailed and clear about my structure in image below. Is this better.
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That looks good to me. I might quibble about some "wordsmithing" things, but the logic and flow seems fine.
 
FactChecker said:
That looks good to me. I might quibble about some "wordsmithing" things, but the logic and flow seems fine.
Thanks for taking the time to help me with this
 
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Just to show the alternative proof. Let ##x \in \mathbb R##.

Let ##x_n## be a sequence that converges to ##x##. Then, ##x_n - x## is a sequence that converges to ##0##. As ##f## is continuous at ##0##, ##f(x_n - x)## converges to ##f(0)##. Using the linear property of ##f##, we have ##f(x_n - x) = f(x_n) - f(x)##. Hence ##f(x_n)## converges to ##f(0) + f(x) = f(0 + x) = f(x)##.

This shows that ##f(x_n)## converges to ##f(x)##, hence ##f## is continuous at ##x##.
 
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Just to show the alternative proof. Let ##x \in \mathbb R##.

Let ##x_n## be a sequence that converges to ##x##. Then, ##x_n - x## is a sequence that converges to ##0##. As ##f## is continuous at ##0##, ##f(x_n - x)## converges to ##f(0)##. Using the linear property of ##f##, we have ##f(x_n - x) = f(x_n) - f(x)##. Hence ##f(x_n)## converges to ##f(0) + f(x) = f(0 + x) = f(x)##.

This shows that ##f(x_n)## converges to ##f(x)##, hence ##f## is continuous at ##x##.
Thanks for posting that. I have not learned that way yet but it is a good tool to have in my bag. It is a nice solution to the problem and pretty concise
 
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