Prove energy of a falling body is constant

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The discussion revolves around proving that the energy of a falling body remains constant, specifically focusing on the expression for kinetic and potential energy. Participants are exploring the relationship between the derivative of this expression and its implications for energy conservation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to differentiate the energy expression and questions how to demonstrate that the result equals zero. Another participant inquires about the relationship between the height change and velocity. A third participant proposes a reasoning approach involving position changes and seeks validation of their arguments.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants sharing their reasoning and attempting to clarify relationships within the problem. Some guidance has been offered in the form of validation for one participant's reasoning, but no consensus has been reached on the overall proof.

Contextual Notes

There is an indication of confusion regarding fundamental concepts related to derivatives and energy conservation, suggesting that some participants may be grappling with underlying assumptions or definitions.

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Homework Statement



Prove that the energy of a falling body remains constat using the derivate of a function

Homework Equations



We need to prove that:

\frac{mv^2}{2} + mgh is constant, trhat is its derivate equals 0

The Attempt at a Solution



Let the positive direction be downward. Applying Newton's second law we get:

mg = F = ma

Now I differentiated the expression and I got:

Fv + \frac{dh}{dt}mg

If I replace mg with F, I get:

F(v+\frac{dh}{dt})

Now, how do I show that this equals 0? I don'y get it. I know that probably some elemntary fact is escaping me, but what? Could you please explain me? Thank you very much!
 
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Hello.

How is dh/dt related to v?
 
I think I've found the answer. If dx is the change in the position of the body, then dx=-dh, so dh/dt=-dx/dt=-v, right? Another way I thought about it would be. Let A be a point such that h=AB, where B it's at ground level. Let O an arbitrary point in space, that it's on the direction of AB. Then we have that OA+ AB is constat, that is x+h is constant, and this means that d(x+h)/dt=0 . I believe that both arguments are solid and correct, but could you please give me your opinion?
 
Yes. That looks good.
 

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