Prove: Inequality of Sums of Square Roots of Positive Reals

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The discussion revolves around proving an inequality involving the sums of square roots of positive real numbers. Specifically, the problem states that for positive reals \(a\), \(b\), and \(c\) with a sum of 3, the inequality \(\sqrt{a}+\sqrt{b}+\sqrt{c} \geq ab+bc+ca\) must be demonstrated.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants express uncertainty about how to begin the proof and discuss the relevance of the AM-GM inequality. There are attempts to manipulate the given conditions, such as rewriting the inequality and exploring implications of certain expressions. Questions arise regarding the application of the AM-GM inequality and the interpretation of derived expressions.

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Some participants have proposed potential transformations of the original inequality and explored the implications of these transformations. There is an ongoing examination of the relationships between the variables and the conditions provided, with no explicit consensus reached on a definitive approach.

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Participants note the constraint that \(a+b+c=3\) and discuss how this condition might influence the proof. There is also mention of the general form of the AM-GM inequality and its potential application to the problem at hand.

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Homework Statement


Let ##a,b,c## be positive real numbers with sum 3. Prove that
\sqrt{a}+\sqrt{b}+\sqrt{c} \geq ab+bc+ca

Homework Equations


AM-GM inequality

The Attempt at a Solution


I don't really know how to start with. We are given ##a+b+c=3##.
Also, ##2(ab+bc+ca)=(a+b+c)^2-(a^2+b^2+c^2)## but this doesn't seem helpful here and I don't see how can I apply the AM-GM inequality here. :(
 
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Pranav-Arora said:

Homework Statement


Let ##a,b,c## be positive real numbers with sum 3. Prove that
\sqrt{a}+\sqrt{b}+\sqrt{c} \geq ab+bc+ca

Homework Equations


AM-GM inequality


The Attempt at a Solution


I don't really know how to start with. We are given ##a+b+c=3##.
Also, ##2(ab+bc+ca)=(a+b+c)^2-(a^2+b^2+c^2)## but this doesn't seem helpful here and I don't see how can I apply the AM-GM inequality here. :(
I think the general statement of the inequality is ##\forall x_i\in\mathbb{R}_+\cup\{0\} \, \frac{x_1+x_2+\cdots+x_n}{n}\geq\sqrt[n]{x_1x_2\cdots x_n}##.
I had to think about this, but...let's use your hint.

Evaluate ##2x-x^2(3-x^2)##. What does that imply about positive x?
Multiply both sides of the statement you need to prove. See where that gets you. :wink:
 
Mandelbroth said:
I think the general statement of the inequality is ##\forall x_i\in\mathbb{R}_+\cup\{0\} \, \frac{x_1+x_2+\cdots+x_n}{n}\geq\sqrt[n]{x_1x_2\cdots x_n}##.
I had to think about this, but...let's use your hint.

Evaluate ##2x-x^2(3-x^2)##. What does that imply about positive x?
Multiply both sides of the statement you need to prove. See where that gets you. :wink:

Sorry for the late reply but I figured this out later. :smile:

The original inequality (to be proved) can be re-written as
a^2+b^2+c^2+2(\sqrt{a}+\sqrt{b}+\sqrt{c}) \geq 9
This inequality can be easily proved by AM-GM inequality.
a^2+\sqrt{a}+\sqrt{a} \geq 3a
Hence proved.
 
Pranav-Arora said:
Sorry for the late reply but I figured this out later. :smile:

The original inequality (to be proved) can be re-written as
a^2+b^2+c^2+2(\sqrt{a}+\sqrt{b}+\sqrt{c}) \geq 9
This inequality can be easily proved by AM-GM inequality.
a^2+\sqrt{a}+\sqrt{a} \geq 3a
Hence proved.
I didn't think of that.

##\forall x\geq0, \, 2x−x^2(3−x^2)=(x−1)^2x(x+2)\geq0 \implies 2x \geq x^2(3−x^2)##.

If we multiply both sides of the original inequality by 2, we get ##2\sqrt{a}+2\sqrt{b}+2\sqrt{c}\geq 2ab+2bc+2ca = a(b+c)+b(a+c)+c(a+b) = a(3-a)+b(3-b)+c(3-c)##. The proof thus follows as an example of the first inequality by considering the case ##x=\sqrt{\alpha}, \, \alpha\in\{a, b, c\}##.
 

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