Prove Limit 0: f1(x,y)=4x³/3(x4+y4)2/3

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The discussion revolves around the limit of a function defined as f1(x,y) = 4x³/3(x⁴+y⁴)²/³ as (x,y) approaches (0,0). Participants are tasked with finding the limit and determining the continuity of the function at that point.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to evaluate the limit along various paths, noting that it approaches 0 along linear paths and encounters difficulties along parabolic paths. They express uncertainty about applying the squeeze theorem.
  • Some participants question the validity of concluding the limit exists based solely on specific paths and suggest using polar coordinates to analyze the limit more comprehensively.
  • Others provide a substitution method for polar coordinates, discussing how to express the function in terms of r and θ, and note that the limit may depend on the angle of approach.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different methods to analyze the limit. There is a recognition that simply checking linear and parabolic paths may not suffice to establish the limit's existence. Suggestions for using polar coordinates indicate a productive direction, although no consensus has been reached on the final approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of homework guidelines, which may limit the depth of exploration. There are indications of confusion regarding the application of the squeeze theorem and the implications of different paths on the limit's existence.

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Homework Statement


let f(x,y)=(x4+y4)1/3
a)find f1 for (x,y)[tex]\neq[/tex](0,0)
b)prove that lim(x,y)[tex]\rightarrow[/tex](0,0)f1(x,y)=0
c) is f1 contintoius at (0,0)?

The Attempt at a Solution


f1=4x³/3(x4+y4)2/3
along any line y=mx, it is 0, along y=x² I run into a problem, where i get 4x1/3/3(1+x4)2/3, don't know what to do.

Once i pass this, I have a hunch i need to use squeeze theorem, yet I don't know how.

EDIT: realized that if I sub in 0 for x in the parabola limit, it goes to 0. I just need help organizing a squeeze theorem equivilent I am thinking [tex]\frac{4x^{3}}{3}[/tex]?
 
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Unfortunately, knowing that the limit is 0 for all linear paths and even all parabolic paths is not enough! In order to be certain that the limit exists, and is 0, you would have to show that you get 0 as limit along all paths. And, of course, you can't do that by looking at different kinds of paths. There are simply too many.

I recommend changing to polar coordinates. That way, the distance to the origin depends on the single variable, r. If the limit, as r goes to 0, does not depend on [itex]\theta[/itex] that is the limit of the function as (x,y) goes to (0,0).
 
so you're saying to make r=x²+y²? with x=rcos[tex]\vartheta[/tex] and y=rsin[tex]\vartheta[/tex]? how would I sub that in? or even isolate for x³?
 
You just do the sub
[tex] x=r\cos\theta,\ y=r\sin\theta:[/tex]

[tex] \frac{4x^3}{3(x^4+y^4)^{2/3}}\\ <br /> =\frac{4r^3\cos^3\theta}{3(r^4(\cos^4\theta+\sin^4\theta))^{2/3}}\\ <br /> =\frac{r^3}{r^{8/3}}\frac{4\cos^3\theta}{3(\cos^4\theta+\sin^4\theta)^{2/3}}\\ <br /> =r^{1/3}\frac{4\cos^3\theta}{3(\cos^4\theta+\sin^4\theta)^{2/3}}\\ [/tex]

It almost depends on the angle your approaching in, but yet it doesn't.
 
[tex]\int\int_{-\infty}^{\infty} dx,dy=\infty\: dy +C[/tex] is the same as

[tex]\frac{\infty}{\infty}=\infty.[/tex] which is trivially true.

[tex]\int\int (x^4+y^4)^\frac{1}{3}=0 \lim\rightarrow{\infty}[/tex]

Thus:

[tex]\int\frac{4x^3}{3(x^4+y^4)^{2/3}}\ =0+C \lim\rightarrow\infty[/tex]

[tex]\int\int f(x,y)={(x4+y4)}^{1/3} dx,dy=0 \lim(x,y)\;\rightarrow{\infty}[/tex]

[tex](x,y)\neq 0;f1=1[/tex]

(0,0) is undefined.

[tex]\lim(x,y)\rightarrow (0,0)f1(x,y)=0[/tex]

Is an assymptote

[tex]\frac{d}{dx} f(x,y)={(x4+y4)}^{1/3=[/tex][tex]\rightarrow[/tex]

[tex]\frac{dx}{dy}\;\rightarrow[/tex]

[tex]=0 \lim\rightarrow\infty[/tex]

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a=0

u=0

[tex]x,y\neq{0}[/tex]

Where the solution is an arbitrary constant or C or c=a.

see

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partial_differential_equation

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And

http://eqworld.ipmnet.ru/en/solutions/npde/npde1401.pdf

and

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Thank you!
 

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