Prove Limit l of f(x) is Zero with abs(x) < ε

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The discussion revolves around proving the limit of the function f(x) = x(3 - cos(x^2)) as x approaches a specific value, which is stated to be zero. Participants are tasked with showing that for any ε > 0, there exists a δ such that |f(x) - 0| < ε when 0 < |x - a| < δ.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between ε and the expression |x(3 - cos(x^2)|, questioning the validity of certain inequalities and assumptions made in the original problem statement.

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There is an ongoing examination of the inequalities presented, with some participants expressing uncertainty about the correctness of the statements regarding the bounds of the function. Guidance has been offered regarding the bounded nature of the cosine function and its implications for the limit proof.

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Participants are navigating the constraints of the problem, including the need to establish appropriate bounds for the function and the implications of using ε in their proofs. There is also a mention of the original poster's oversight in specifying the value of a.

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Problem: Determine the limit l for the given a, and prove that it is the limit by showing how to find a δ such that abs(f(x) - l)< ε for all x satisfying 0< abs( x - a) < δ.

** abs = absolutue value of...

Solution:
f(x) = x(3-cos(x^2))

The limit l is zero. hence the product of some number times zero is zero.

abs(f(x) - 0)< ε = abs(x(3-cos(x^2)).

abs((3-cos(x^2))≤ 1, abs(x(3-cos(x^2))< abs(x)

Thus for every number x, If abs(x) < ε Then abs(x(3-cos(x^2)),

Which finishes the proof, concluding that the limit of f(x) near zero is zero.
 
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For future reference, use | for absolute value. It's easier to read.

Miike012 said:
f(x) = x(3-cos(x^2))

The limit l is zero.

Is the problem to show that \lim_{x \to 0} f(x) = 0?

Miike012 said:
hence the product of some number times zero is zero.

I'm not sure where this comes from.

Miike012 said:
abs(f(x) - 0)< ε = abs(x(3-cos(x^2)).

The bolded part is good start. I'm not sure why you're equating epsilon to |x(3-cos(x2)|.

Miike012 said:
abs((3-cos(x^2))≤ 1, abs(x(3-cos(x^2))< abs(x)

Neither of these statements are true. Do you see why?

Miike012 said:
Thus for every number x, If abs(x) < ε

It's unclear how you concluded the bolded part.

Miike012 said:
Then abs(x(3-cos(x^2))

Then what? Is there supposed to be an equation here?
 
"I'm not sure why you're equating epsilon to |x(3-cos(x2)|."
Are you asking me why i said |x(3-cos(x2)| < ε?

"Neither of these statements are true. Do you see why?"
|x(3-cos(x2)| is not less than or equal to 1.. is that right?
abs(x(3-cos(x^2))< abs(x), I am not sure why that is not correct...?

"It's unclear how you concluded the bolded part."

Because I said |x(3-cos(x2)| < ε, then I found out |x(3-cos(x2)| < |x|
Then I assumed |x(3-cos(x2)| < |x - 0| < ε Thus |x| < ε
 
Miike012 said:
"I'm not sure why you're equating epsilon to |x(3-cos(x2)|."
Are you asking me why i said |x(3-cos(x2)| < ε?

No. I'm asking why you're setting ε = |x(3-cos(x^2)|.

Miike012 said:
"Neither of these statements are true. Do you see why?"
|x(3-cos(x2)| is not less than or equal to 1.. is that right?

Yes.

Miike012 said:
abs(x(3-cos(x^2))< abs(x), I am not sure why that is not correct...?

-1 ≤ cos(x2) ≤ 1, so:

|x(3-cos(x2)| ≥ |x(3-1)| = |2x| > |x|. This is the opposite of what you want.
 
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-1 ≤cos(x2) ≤ 1, I am assuming you picked +- 1 because of the range of the function?
In general when proving limits how do I determine the appropriate interval for my function? For example If I had some polynomial g could I say -n ≤g(x) ≤ n, where n is an integer?
 
Miike012 said:
-1 ≤cos(x2) ≤ 1, I am assuming you picked +- 1 because of the range of the function?

Correct. Cosine is bounded between -1 and +1.

Miike012 said:
In general when proving limits how do I determine the appropriate interval for my function? For example If I had some polynomial g could I say -n ≤g(x) ≤ n, where n is an integer?

You don't want to use integers. That's what the epsilon is for. By letting ε > 0, this covers every case.
 
The books solution was...
-1 ≤ cos(x2) ≤ 1, so |(3-cos(x2)| <=4, and thus |x(3-cos(x2) - 0| = |x|*|x(3-cos(x)|<= 4|x|.

So we take delta = ε/4.

So in the first step they said -n ≤ cos(x2) ≤ n where n = 1, so If I had another situation like this example but the function was say a polynomial... then How would I pick n.
I hope I am making sense.

I understand that I have to use epsilon when I am saying |f(x) - l|.
 
I know that gb7nash asked you this, but I didn't see any answer.

Precisely, what limit are you trying to evaluate? Mostly, what is a ?

\displaystyle\lim_{x\,\to\,a}(x(3-\cos(x^2)))
 
a is zero, so the limit is zero..
Sorry I forgot to put the value of a in my problem.
 

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