Prove P(n,m): m+n=n+m for Natural Numbers

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The discussion centers on proving the commutative property of addition for natural numbers, specifically P(n,m): m+n=n+m. The proof is approached through mathematical induction, starting with the base case P(0,0) and then progressing to P(n,0) and P(n,m). Participants emphasize the necessity of following the instructor's guidance to establish the proof systematically, ensuring clarity in the inductive steps. The consensus is that the proof must include both P(n,0) and P(m) to be comprehensive.

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Homework Statement


Prove that P(n,m) m+n = n+m for all m,n in natural numbers.


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The Attempt at a Solution


I prove by induction.

Base case: P(0,0) = 0+0 = 0+0.
Inductive step: Let n be an arbitrary natural number. Suppose m+n =n+m. Adding 2 to both sides of the equation gives us m+n+2 = n+m+2.(end of proof)

My question is if this is sufficient enough as a proof. (The instructor hinted us to show P(0,0) first. Then show P(n,0) and then proceed to P(n,m). The hint confuses me.
 
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sli10126 said:

Homework Statement


Prove that P(n,m) m+n = n+m for all m,n in natural numbers.


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


I prove by induction.

Base case: P(0,0) = 0+0 = 0+0.
Inductive step: Let n be an arbitrary natural number. Suppose m+n =n+m. Adding 2 to both sides of the equation gives us m+n+2 = n+m+2.(end of proof)

My question is if this is sufficient enough as a proof. (The instructor hinted us to show P(0,0) first. Then show P(n,0) and then proceed to P(n,m). The hint confuses me.
You're OK with your base case, but you need to follow your instructor's suggestion.
Prove by induction on n that n + 0 = 0 + n; i.e., that the statement is true for P(n, 0).
Next, prove by induction on m that n + m = m + n.
 


Would I need to show P(n+1,0) and P(0,m+1) or would P(n,0) and P(m) be sufficient? Because I know that for the inductive step we prove if P(n) then P(n+1).
 

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