Prove Perfect Lie Algebra of R^3 Euclidean Motions Isn't Semisimple

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The discussion revolves around the properties of the Lie algebra associated with the Lie group of Euclidean motions in R^3. Participants explore whether this Lie algebra is perfect and not semisimple, focusing on definitions and characteristics of Lie algebras and groups.

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  • One participant asks for a proof that the Lie algebra of Euclidean motions in R^3 is perfect and not semisimple, defining perfect as Dg=g and semisimple as having no nonzero solvable ideals.
  • Another participant suggests a method to approach the problem, including writing down the Lie algebra, showing that Dg=g, and identifying a solvable non-zero ideal.
  • A question is raised about whether the Lie group of Euclidean motions corresponds to O(3), which is clarified by another participant to include distance-preserving maps, not just rotations.
  • There is a clarification that the Lie group is actually the semi-direct product of O(3) and R^3, with a specific composition rule provided.
  • A participant expresses their learning process in Lie theory, indicating they have many questions about definitions.

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Participants generally agree on the nature of the Lie group as encompassing more than just rotations, but there is no consensus on the proof or the specific characteristics of the Lie algebra being discussed.

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Participants mention the need to identify a solvable non-zero ideal, but the specific steps or definitions required to do so remain unresolved.

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Individuals interested in Lie theory, particularly those studying the properties of Lie algebras and groups in the context of Euclidean motions.

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Does anybody know the answer of the following problem?

Show that the Lie group of Euclidean motions of R^3 has a Lie algebra g which is perfect i.e., Dg=g but g is not semisimple.
By Dg I mean the commutator [g,g] and a semisimple lie algebra is one has no nonzero solvable ideals.

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Is the following helpful?
1. Write down the lie algebra
2. show that Dg=g
3. find a solvable non-zero ideal (there will be an obvious candidate - this must be the easiest part)
 
does the lie group of Euclidean motions of R^3 means O(3) i.e. rotations?
 
No. I don't think so. I think it means distance preserving maps (not just linear maps) - so rotations and translations, and reflections. (SO(3) is the group of rotations, not O(3)).
 
you're right. So what is the Lie algebra of transformation preserving distance?
Since I'm learning Lie theory by myself, I have lots of questions even in definitions!
 
Write down the lie group, then work out its lie algebra. I'll give you the lie group.

G:= O(3)\sdp R^3, that is the semi direct product. It is the set of pairs (X,V) with X in O(3) and v in R^3, and the composition:

(X,v)(Y,w)=(XY,Xw+ v).

You have been told how to find lie algebras (or someone else has in another thread currently active in this forum).
 
Ok!

many thanks
 

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