Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around proving the existence of a real root for the polynomial $$f(x)=5tx^4+sx^3+3rx^2+qx+p$$ within the interval [-1, 1], given the condition that $$r+t=-p$$. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and exploration of different approaches to the problem.
Discussion Character
- Mathematical reasoning
- Exploratory
- Debate/contested
Main Points Raised
- One participant suggests using the Intermediate Value Theorem by evaluating $$f(1)$$ and $$f(-1)$$ and checking if $$f(1) \cdot f(-1) < 0$$ to establish the existence of a root.
- Another participant rewrites the polynomial and proposes a different polynomial $$p(x)=tx^5+(s/4)x^4+rx^3+(q/2)x^2+px-(s/4+q/2)$$, noting that $$p(1)=p(-1)=0$$ and inferring that $$p$$ has an extremum in $$(-1,1)$$, leading to the conclusion that $$p'(x)$$ must have a root in that interval.
- A later reply acknowledges the elegance of the second approach while indicating that there are other straightforward methods to tackle the problem, inviting further contributions from other members.
- Another participant hints at using an integration method as an alternative approach to solve the problem.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants present multiple competing views and methods to approach the problem, and the discussion remains unresolved as no consensus is reached on a single method or proof.
Contextual Notes
Some methods proposed rely on specific evaluations and conditions that may not cover all cases, such as the implications of setting $$s=q=0$$ or the assumptions made in the derivation of the polynomial $$p(x)$$.