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The discussion revolves around proving a statement related to the equation \(x^3 + y^3 = z^3\) under the condition that no prime number \(p\) divides the integers \(x\), \(y\), and \(z\). Participants are exploring the implications of this condition on the parity of the numbers involved and their divisibility by 3.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants are examining the parity of \(x\), \(y\), and \(z\) and discussing whether all can be odd, all can be even, or if combinations of even and odd are possible. There is also a focus on how the absence of common prime factors affects these conditions.

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There is an active exploration of the conditions under which \(x\), \(y\), and \(z\) can be even or odd. Some participants have suggested that if \(x\) and \(y\) are both odd, then \(z\) must be even, while others are questioning the implications of having no common prime factors. The discussion is ongoing, with various interpretations being considered.

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Participants are working under the constraint that the integers \(x\), \(y\), and \(z\) must not share any prime factors, which influences their reasoning about parity and divisibility by 3. There is also mention of needing to prove additional properties related to divisibility by 3, which adds complexity to the discussion.

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Homework Statement


"If no prime number ##p## divides a hypothetical solution ##(x,y,z)∈ℕ×ℕ×ℕ## to the equation ##x^3+y^3=z^3##, prove that exactly one of x, y and z is even."

Homework Equations


Given:
~##∃p:(\frac{x}{p},\frac{y}{p},\frac{z}{p})∈ℕ×ℕ×ℕ## such that ##x^3+y^3=z^3##.
In other words, ##(x,y,z)≠(ap,bp,cp)## for some ##a,b,c∈ℕ##

Prove: ##x##, ##y##, or ##z## can be written as a multiple of ##2##.

The Attempt at a Solution


So here I assume that ##x, y, z## do not all have a common prime factor ##p## in common. I also assume that these variables are multiples of certain prime numbers or are prime numbers themselves. Taking these assumptions into mind, I set my variables: ##x=ap##, ##y=bp##, ##z=cp_u##. I assume that ##p_u≠p## is an arbitrary prime number. Now plugging in these values for the equation, I have...

##x^3+y^3=z^3##
##a^3p^3+b^3p^3=c^3p_u^3##
##p^3(a^3+b^3)=p_u^3(c^3)##

Now let ##a## be odd, and ##b## be odd. Then I can rewrite them as ##a=2m+1## and ##b=2n+1##. Focusing on the factor of ##p^3##, and assuming that it is not ##1##...

##(a)^3=(4m^2+4m+1)(2m+1)=(8m^3+8m^2+2m)+(4m^2+4m+1)=8m^3+12m^2+6m+1##
##(b)^3=(4n^2+4n+1)(2n+1)=(8n^3+8n^2+2n)+(4n^2+4n+1)=8n^3+12n^2+6n+1##
##a^3+b^3=8(m^3+n^3)+12(m^2+n^2)+6(m+n)+2=2[4(m^3+n^3)+6(m^2+n^2)+3(m+n)+1]##

Since ##[4(m^3+n^3)+6(m^2+n^2)+3(m+n)+1]## is an integer, then ##a^3+b^3## is even. Moreover, since ##p^3## only has itself and ##1## as a factor, it stands to say that either ##p_u^3## or ##c^3##--that is to say, either ##p_u## or ##c## are even. In turn, ##z## is an even integer, when ##x## and ##y## are both odd.

Now I'm a bit ambivalent about submitting this as a solution. Should I provide a case-by-case proof, or is this enough? Should I demonstrate that this does not work when ##x## or ##y## are odd; or perhaps should I make either ##x## or ##y## even, and the remaining of the two odd, with ##z## being odd? Or perhaps I should rework the problem so that only one (or perhaps none) of the three variables is a multiple of the prime number ##p##? Maybe if they were all distinct primes...? I don't know how many examples I should give for a case-by-case proof for this problem.

Additionally, I will need to prove that one of these terms is a multiple of ##3## with the same conditions stated above.
 
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Hint: look for a simple answer. First, don't worry about the prime divisor condition. What can you say about the oddness/evenness of ##x, y, z##?
 
PeroK said:
What can you say about the oddness/evenness of ##x##, ##y##, ##z##?

I can say that ##z## is even if ##x## and ##y## are of the same parity.
 
Eclair_de_XII said:
I can say that ##z## is even if ##x## and ##y## are of the same parity.

Is it possible that ##x, y, z## are all odd?
Is it possible that ##x, y, z## are all even?
Is it possible that two are even and one odd?
Is it possible that one is even and two are odd?
Are there any more options?
 
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PeroK said:
Is it possible that ##x##, ##y##, ##z## are all odd?

Only if ##p_u=2##, I think.

PeroK said:
Is it possible that ##x##, ##y##, ##z## are all even?

Yes.

PeroK said:
Is it possible that two are even and one odd?

I don't think so. If, for example, ##x## were even, then ##x^3+y^3=2[4(m^3+n^3)+6n^2+3n]+1##, which is odd.

PeroK said:
Is it possible that one is even and two are odd?

Yes, as I've just demonstrated.

PeroK said:
Are there any more options?

I don't think so.
 
Hold on. If ##x## and ##y## are odd, then ##x^3## and ##y^3## are also odd. So their sum is even and equal to ##z^3##. It's basically asking for the parity of ##x+y=z##.

##x## odd and ##y## odd ⇒ ##z## even
##x## even and ##y## even ⇒ ##z## even
##x## odd and ##y## even ⇒ ##z## odd
##x## even and ##y## odd ⇒ ##z## odd

And in the second case, the first condition: ~##∃p:(\frac{x}{p},\frac{y}{p},\frac{z}{p})∈ℕ×ℕ×ℕ## is violated because now there exists a ##p=2## that makes the second argument irrelevant. And then you have only the three. Now how to prove that one of these variables is also a multiple of 3...
 
You have shown:

For any numbers ##a+b = c## you only have two possibilities. Either they are all even or precisely one of them is even.

Now, if they have no common factors, they can't all be even, leaving just one possibility ...

Note that for this problem you need only the basic logic. No equations are necessary.
 
Can I ask, before I go to bed, how I can show that one of the variables is divisible by 3? I tried factoring the expanded polynomial from my original post and rearranging terms, but couldn't express it as a multiple of 3. Thanks.
 
In the same vein as before, I tried expressing ##z## as a multiple of 3 by writing the variables as ##x=3a+1## and ##y=3b+2##. So ##x+y=3(a+b+1)=z##. And I can immediately come up with a counterexample to this; basically, if ##x## and ##y## are of the same parity, it does not work.
 
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Eclair_de_XII said:
In the same vein as before, I tried expressing ##z## as a multiple of 3 by writing the variables as ##x=3a+1## and ##y=3b+2##. So ##x+y=3(a+b+1)=z##. And I can immediately come up with a counterexample to this; basically, if ##x## and ##y## are of the same parity, it does not work.

What are you trying to prove?
 
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I'm trying to prove the following statement:

"If no prime number ##p## divides a hypothetical solution ##(x,y,z)∈ℕ×ℕ×ℕ## to the equation ##x^3+y^3=z^3##, prove that exactly one of ##x##, ##y##, and ##z## is divisible by ##3##."
 

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