Prove this inequality for all triangles

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The discussion revolves around proving an inequality involving the angles of a triangle, specifically that the product of the half-angle tangents and their sum is less than one-half. The subject area includes trigonometry and properties of triangles.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the use of the half-angle formula for tangent and attempt to manipulate the inequality into a more workable form. There are discussions about relationships between the angles and their cotangents, as well as attempts to express one angle in terms of the others.

Discussion Status

Multiple participants are actively engaging with the problem, sharing their attempts and insights. Some have provided hints and partial progress, while others express frustration and seek further assistance. There is no explicit consensus on a solution, but various lines of reasoning are being explored.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the constraint that the sum of the angles in a triangle equals π, which is central to their reasoning. There are also mentions of specific relationships and identities that may be relevant to the problem, but these are still under discussion.

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Homework Statement


Show that the angles a, b, c of each triangle satisfy this inequality.

\tan \frac{a}{2}\tan \frac{b}{2} \tan \frac{c}{2} (\tan \frac{a}{2} + \tan \frac{b}{2} + \tan \frac{c}{2}) < \frac{1}{2}


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The Attempt at a Solution



I used the half angle formula: \tan \frac{\theta}{2} = \frac{1- \cos x}{\sin x}

That gives

\frac{(1- \cos a)(1- \cos b)(1- \cos c)}{(\sin a)(\sin b)(\sin c)} [\frac{1- \cos a}{\sin a} + \frac{1- \cos b}{\sin b} + \frac{1- \cos c}{\sin c}] < \frac{1}{2}

I don't know where to go from this. Can someone give me any hints please? Thanks.
 
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sharpycasio said:

Homework Statement


Show that the angles a, b, c of each triangle satisfy this inequality.

\tan \frac{a}{2}\tan \frac{b}{2} \tan \frac{c}{2} (\tan \frac{a}{2} + \tan \frac{b}{2} + \tan \frac{c}{2}) < \frac{1}{2}


Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution



I used the half angle formula: \tan \frac{\theta}{2} = \frac{1- \cos x}{\sin x}

That gives

\frac{(1- \cos a)(1- \cos b)(1- \cos c)}{(\sin a)(\sin b)(\sin c)} [\frac{1- \cos a}{\sin a} + \frac{1- \cos b}{\sin b} + \frac{1- \cos c}{\sin c}] < \frac{1}{2}

I don't know where to go from this. Can someone give me any hints please? Thanks.
One hint is that a + b + c = π .
 
Thanks SammyS.

Since a + b + c = π we can prove that (cot A)(cot B)(cot C) = cot A + cot B + cot C
With that I did the following.

Rearrange given equation:
2[tan(a/2) + tan(b/2) + tan(c/2)] < [tan(a/2) * tan(b/2) * tan(c/2)]^-1

2[tan(a/2) + tan(b/2) + tan(c/2)] < cot(a/2) * cot(b/2) * cot (c/2)

Substitute RHS

2[tan(a/2) + tan(b/2) + tan(c/2)] < cot(a/2) + cot(b/2) + cot (c/2)

From here on, everything I try leads to no where. I tried expressing c/2 as (pi/2)-(a+b) but that makes the problem even more complicated. I honestly give up. Can someone please help me? I suck at this and I need to solve this problem for tomorrow. I'm desperate. Thanks.
 
Can someone please please help me? I only have about two more hours to solve this stupid question.
 
No help at all? :(
 
I'm sorry, but I don't have the solution either.

My thought with a + b + c = π was simply that then

\displaystyle c=\pi-(a+b)\ \ \text{ so that }\ \ \frac{c}{2}=\frac{\pi}{2}-\frac{a+b}{2}\,,

thus \displaystyle \tan\left(\frac{c}{2}\right)=\tan\left(\frac{\pi}{2}-\frac{a+b}{2}\right)=\cot\left(\frac{a+b}{2}\right)\ .

I haven't figured out if that leads anywhere.How did you conclude the following:
Since a + b + c = π we can prove that (cot A)(cot B)(cot C) = cot A + cot B + cot C
?
 
SammyS said:
I'm sorry, but I don't have the solution either.

My thought with a + b + c = π was simply that then

\displaystyle c=\pi-(a+b)\ \ \text{ so that }\ \ \frac{c}{2}=\frac{\pi}{2}-\frac{a+b}{2}\,,

thus \displaystyle \tan\left(\frac{c}{2}\right)=\tan\left(\frac{\pi}{2}-\frac{a+b}{2}\right)=\cot\left(\frac{a+b}{2}\right)\ .

I haven't figured out if that leads anywhere.


How did you conclude the following:
Since a + b + c = π we can prove that (cot A)(cot B)(cot C) = cot A + cot B + cot C
?


http://in.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080111225452AADKNLv

I was told that

tan(a/2)tan(b/2)+tan(a/2)tan(c/2)+tan(b/2)tan(c/2) =1 is useful.

You can prove that by taking the tan of both sides of the following

(a+b)/2 = 90 -c

Thanks for trying.
 
sharpycasio said:
http://in.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080111225452AADKNLv

I was told that

tan(a/2)tan(b/2)+tan(a/2)tan(c/2)+tan(b/2)tan(c/2) =1 is useful.

You can prove that by taking the tan of both sides of the following

(a+b)/2 = 90 -c

Thanks for trying.
I looked that over & I'm quite sure there is a sign error in that derivation.
 
I know it is too late, but I think I found the solution just now.

As SammyS pointed out,
\tan(\frac{c}{2})=\cot(\frac{a+b}{2})

Expanding: \cot(\frac{a+b}{2})=\frac{1-\tan(\frac{a}{2})\tan(\frac{b}{2})}{\tan(\frac{a}{2})+\tan(\frac{b}{2})}

With the notations x=tan(a/2) and y=tan(b/2), (x≥0, y≥0) the original expression becomes

A=xy \frac{1-xy}{x+y} \left( x+y+\frac{1-xy}{x+y} \right)=xy\left(1-xy+\frac{(1-xy)^2}{(x+y)^2}\right)

From the relation between the arithmetic and geometric means (x+y)2≥4xy, so
\frac{(1-xy)^2}{(x+y)^2} ≤ \frac{(1-xy)^2}{4xy}

A≤xy\left(1-xy+\frac{(1-xy)^2}{4xy}\right)

denoting xy by z (z≥0):

A≤z\left(1-z+\frac{(1-z)^2}{4z}\right)=\frac{1}{4}(-3z^2+2z+1), which is an upside-down parabola.

Check, please.

ehild
 

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