Proving "1+1+1/2!+1/3!+...+1/n! < 3

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The discussion revolves around proving the inequality \(1 + 1 + \frac{1}{2!} + \frac{1}{3!} + \ldots + \frac{1}{n!} < 3\). This falls within the subject area of series and limits, particularly focusing on factorials and their convergence properties.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore various starting points for the proof, including the possibility of using induction and comparing the series to known series. Some suggest examining the sum of terms beyond a certain point, while others consider the relationship to Taylor series.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering hints and suggestions without providing complete solutions. There is a recognition of the need to explore different methods and comparisons, indicating a productive direction in the discussion.

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Some participants express uncertainty about the applicability of certain methods, such as induction, and question the assumptions underlying their approaches. There is also mention of avoiding specific solutions that involve limits or known results like \(e\).

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Homework Statement


Prove that 1+1+1/2!+1/3!+...+1/n! < 3


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The Attempt at a Solution


Any suggestion how can I start?
I don't want the solution that 1+1+1/2!+1/3!+...+1/n!=(1+1/n)^n and lim (1+1/n)^n = e<3 since the 2nd part is to prove (1+1/n)^n <3 . I don't want a solution. I just want to know how to start with it.
 
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hi topengonzo! welcome to pf! :smile:

hint: can you see a way to prove that 1/2!+1/3!+...+1/n! < 1 ? :wink:
 
hi tiny-tim

this is the first thing i thought of and i actually worked without the first 2 terms. Prove by induction on this problem is impossible i think. So i don't have a clue how to solve it. :S
 
1/2+1/2.3+1/2.3.4+...+ < ? :wink:
 
topengonzo said:

Homework Statement


Prove that 1+1+1/2!+1/3!+...+1/n! < 3


Homework Equations


None


The Attempt at a Solution


Any suggestion how can I start?
I don't want the solution that 1+1+1/2!+1/3!+...+1/n!=(1+1/n)^n and lim (1+1/n)^n = e<3 since the 2nd part is to prove (1+1/n)^n <3 . I don't want a solution. I just want to know how to start with it.

hint: does the original series look familiar to you at all? Have you compared it to any series you already know?
(If you haven't learned taylor expansion ignore what I said here)
 
i don't get what u mean. I am thinking of proving that sum of next terms is less than equal to current term that is:
(1/3!) + (1/4!)+(1/5!)+...(1/infinity!)<(1/2!)
(1/4!) + (1/5!)+(1/6!)+...(1/infinity!)<(1/3!)
... (1/(n+1)!) + (1/(n+2)!)+... (1/infinity!)<(1/n!)

Should I reach a solution with this method or can I solve it this way?
 
sunjin09 said:
hint: does the original series look familiar to you at all? Have you compared it to any series you already know?
(If you haven't learned taylor expansion ignore what I said here)

I think its taylor expansion will give me e<3 and solved. Is there another way to solve it?
 
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sunjin09, please don't give the full answer :redface:
 
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sunjin09 said:
what about 1+1+1/2+1/4+1/8+... compare to your series? what's the sum?

THANK YOU VERY VERY MUCH!

So I prove 1/k! < 1/ 2^(k-1) for k>=3 by induction and then i can say my series < 1+ 1 + 1/2 + 1/4 + 1/8 + ... which is geometric series with r=1/2 and first term 1
implies 1+ 1/(1-1/2) = 3
 
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tiny-tim said:
1/2+1/2.3+1/2.3.4+...+ < ? :wink:

That is the same as \dfrac{1}{2} \ + \ \dfrac{1}{2}\cdot 3 \ + \ \dfrac{1}{2}\cdot3\cdot4 \ \ + \ ... \ + \ &lt; \ ?



(You're using the dots for multiplication. Written out horizontally,
grouping symbols are needed.)



Instead, it could be correctly shown horizontally as:


1/2 + 1/(2*3) + 1/(2*3*4) + ... + < ?


or as



1/2 \ + \ 1/(2\cdot 3) \ + \ 1/(2\cdot3\cdot4) \ + \ ... \ + \ &lt; \ ?
 

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