Proving a piece-wise defined function is bijective.

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The discussion revolves around proving that a piecewise defined function, \( f: \mathbb{Z} \to \mathbb{N} \), is a bijection. The function is defined as \( f(x) = 2x + 2 \) for \( x \geq 0 \) and \( f(x) = -2x - 1 \) for \( x < 0 \). Participants are exploring the conditions for the function to be injective and surjective.

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  • Participants discuss the need to prove both injectivity and surjectivity, with some focusing on the surjective aspect. There are considerations of different cases based on whether \( y \) is even or odd, and participants express confusion about the number of cases needed to investigate. Questions arise regarding the validity of methods and the implications of certain results.

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There is ongoing exploration of the surjectivity proof, with participants providing suggestions and guidance on how to structure the argument. Some participants have begun to formalize their reasoning, while others are still questioning their approach and understanding of the definitions involved.

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Participants are navigating the definitions of odd and even natural numbers and the implications of the piecewise nature of the function. There is also mention of the need to clarify the parity of \( x \) to justify the use of specific formulas in the proof.

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Homework Statement


##f:\mathbb{Z} \to \mathbb{N}##
## f(x) = \begin{cases} 2x+2 & \text{if } x \geq 0 \\ -2x-1 & \text{if } x < 0 \end{cases} ##
Prove that f is a bijection from ##\mathbb{Z}## to ##\mathbb{N}##

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Proving that it is an injection if quite simple. Proving it is a surjection is where i get confused.

Let ##y\in\mathbb{N} \text{ and } x \in \mathbb{Z}##

If ##x \geq 0 \text{ then } y=2x+2 ~~\Rightarrow~~ x=\frac{y-2}{2} ##
if ##y\geq 2 \text{ then } f(\frac{y-2}{2})=2(\frac{y-2}{2})+2=y##
if ##y<2 \text{ then } f(\frac{y-2}{2})=-2(\frac{y-2}{2})-1=1-y##

If ##x<0 \text{ then } y=-2x-1 ~~\Rightarrow~~ x=\frac{-(y+1)}{2}##
if ## y \geq -1 \text{ then } f(\frac{-(y+1)}{2})=2(\frac{-(y+1)}{2})+2=1-y##
if ## y<-1 \text{ then } f(\frac{-(y+1)}{2}) = -2(\frac{-(y+1)}{2})-1=y##

I'm pretty sure there should only be 2 or at most 4 cases that i need to investigate but i have 6. So I am clearly doing something wrong... Could someone help me out please?
 
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For the surjection, why not consider the cases where y is even and odd.
 
PeroK said:
For the surjection, why not consider the cases where y is even and odd.
Ahhh thank you PeroK! I'm certain i was thinking that on the bus home, and then i lost the thought and couldn't find it again. Thank you for reminding me!

Just an aside; Is my method even valid? i don't know what to make of the 1-y results.. does this matter?
 
pondzo said:
Ahhh thank you PeroK! I'm certain i was thinking that on the bus home, and then i lost the thought and couldn't find it again. Thank you for reminding me!

Just an aside; Is my method even valid? i don't know what to make of the 1-y results.. does this matter?

If I could follow your method, I'd tell you.

Normally, if you're trying to show something is a surjection onto a set Y, you would start with:

Let ##y \in Y##

Then find the relevant ##x \in X##
 
So if I split the problem into whether y is odd or even will I end up dealing with four cases?

1. y is odd and y is less than or equal to 1
2. y is odd and y is greater than 1
3. y is even and y is greater than or equal to 2
4. y is even and y is less than 2

This is how I am thinking about it; The first two cases arise because y being odd leads to ##x=\frac{1-y}{2}## and if y <= 1 then x would be positive so i use 2x+2 but if y>1 then x is negative so i would use -2x-1. The same argument goes for the last two.

I feel somewhere in that argument i am contradicting myself and in general don't have a whole lot of confidence in the way i have done things. Could you show me how the "y is odd" argument would look?
 
You don't need four cases, only two. To get you started:

Let ##y \in \mathbb{N}## be even. Then ##y = 2n## for some ##n \in \mathbb{N}##

Can you take it from there?
 
How does this look?

Let ##y \in \mathbb{N}## be even. Then ##y=2n## for some ##n \in \mathbb{N}##
##y=2x+2 ~~\Rightarrow~~ x=\frac{y-2}{2}=\frac{2n-2}{2}=n-1##

Let ##y \in \mathbb{N}## be odd. Then ##y=2n+1## for some ##n \in \mathbb{N}##
##y=-2x-1 ~~\Rightarrow~~ x=\frac{-(y+1)}{2}=\frac{-(2n+2)}{2}=-n-1##
 
Thanks for all your help PeroK.
 
A couple of things.

First, note that ##\mathbb{N} = {1, 2, 3 ...}##. So, you need to check your definition of an odd natural number for n = 1.

Second, you're writing what I would call rough notes. These do not form a logical argument.

Third, you haven't finished the proof. You've stopped half-way through.

To take the even case a step further:

Let ##y \in \mathbb{N}## be even. Then ##y = 2n## for some ##n \in \mathbb{N}##

(Now, do your rough notes off to one side, then come back with:

Let ##x = n - 1##

##x \in \mathbb{Z}## and ##f(x) = 2n = y##

That is a formal proof (of the even case). Do you see the difference?
 
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I really appreciate the tips you are giving me! I'm just starting pure maths in uni and i need to become familiar with the procedures and formalism.

So is this a little better?

Let ##y \in \mathbb{N}## be even. Then ##y=2n## for some ##n \in \mathbb{N}##
And let ##x=n-1~~\text{with}~~x\in\mathbb{Z}##
##f(x)=2(n-1)+2=2n=y##

Let ##y \in \mathbb{N}## be odd. Then ##y=2n+1## for some ##n \in \mathbb{N}##
And let ##x=-n-1~~\text{with}~~x\in\mathbb{Z}##
##f(x)=-2(-n-1)-1=2n+1=y##

This shows that for every element of ##\mathbb{N}## there is a corresponding element of ##\mathbb{Z}## which f maps to it. Therefore f is a surjection of N onto Z.

Is the conclusion sufficient or must it be altered? Also is it a good idea to make the "rough notes" part of the proof or at least visible?
 
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And regarding my definition of an odd number i would change it to;

Let ##y \in \mathbb{N}## be odd. Then ##y=2n-1## for some ##n \in \mathbb{N}##
And let ##x=-n~~\text{with}~~x\in\mathbb{Z}##
##f(x)=-2(-n)-1=2n-1=y##
 
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Yes, much better.

A minor detail (I missed this too.) It's better to mention whether x is < 0 or not, so you know you're using the correct formula for f.

Let ##x = -n##

##x \in \mathbb{Z}, x < 0 \ \ and \ \ f(x) = -2(-n) -1 = 2n - 1 = y##

Re notes and proofs in general. You should ask your lecturers what they expect in an exam. What I do is work out the notes to one side then decide how much (if any) needs to be mentioned in the proof for clarity and justification.

A brief recap at the end of exactly what you've shown is often worthwhile.
 
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If it is necessary to state the parity of x then does this mean there will be more cases I need to consider (i.e. if x<0 or x##\geq 0##)?

Also I could tighten up the conclusion by writing instead: "this shows that##~~\forall~ y~\in\mathbb{N}\exists x~\in~\mathbb{Z}:f(x)=y## which if anyone else typeset would look more aesthetically pleasing to the eye...
 
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pondzo said:
If it is necessary to state the parity of x then does this mean there will be more cases I need to consider (i.e. if x<0 or x##\geq 0##)?

No. But the sign of x tells you which formula to use. So, this justifies why you used the formula in each case.
 
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PeroK said:
No. But the sign of x tells you which formula to use. So, this justifies why you used the formula in each case.
Ahh yes of course, I forgot that ##n\in\mathbb{N}## and not ##n\in\mathbb{Z}##.
Thanks again for all your help PeroK.
 

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