Proving a set of vectors are linearly independent

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The discussion revolves around proving that a set of vectors in R3 is linearly independent. The original poster presents a method involving row reduction of a 3x3 matrix formed by the vectors, questioning the adequacy of their reasoning.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the necessity of restrictions on the vectors to ensure linear independence and question the validity of assuming the vectors are independent without proof. There is discussion about the implications of row-reducing the matrix and what leading terms indicate regarding independence.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the proof process and clarifying the conditions under which the original poster's reasoning holds. There is no explicit consensus, but guidance on the correct interpretation of leading terms and their significance in the proof is being explored.

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Participants note the importance of not assuming the vectors are independent and the implications of row reduction results on the proof's validity.

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Hi, I came across a question where I needed to prove that a set of vectors are linearly independent. The thing is, I am not sure how to reason the proof properly.

Say you have three vectors x1,x2,x3 E R3, and prove that they are linearly independent.

Put them into a 3x3 matrix A, row-reduce, if all the columns have leading terms, because there are no non-leading columns, the only solution of Ax=0 is when x=(0,0,0). Thus, x1,x2,x3 are linearly independent.

Is this reasoning good enough? I feel like I am missing something.

Any help would be appreciated.
 
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I think you'll have to put some restrictions on your vectors. Right now, it seems to me that the vectors x1, x2, and x3 can be any vectors in R3. However, won't you need to put a bit more restriction on that? What if I give x1=<1,2,3> and x2=<2,4,6>... then they aren't linearly independent.

I hope you got some advice from all that babble.
 
Thanks for the reply Char.Limit.

Assuming that x1,x2,x3 are indeed linearly independent, is my reasoning good enough? I am not sure if my proof is sufficient.

Thanks.
 
You can't assume they are independent, if this is what you need to show.

If these are some given vectors, then your procedure is OK, since x = (0, 0, 0) represents the coefficients of your linear combination.
 
Yeah sorry I didn't put it clearly. What I meant was x1,x2,x3 are given vectors.

If the row-reduced matrix has no non-leading terms, you can deduce that the vectors are linearly independent already. Its just I don't know how to set up the proof properly lol.
 
If the vectors are not independent, then row reduction will result in the last row being all "0"s and vice versa. That's essentially what you mean by "non-leading term" isn't it?
 
HallsofIvy said:
If the vectors are not independent, then row reduction will result in the last row being all "0"s and vice versa. That's essentially what you mean by "non-leading term" isn't it?

Yeah is that the right term? If a matrix has a row of zeros then it has no leading terms. It was either leading term or leading column. Sorry I forgot the exact name for it.
 

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