Proving absolute converge with minorant criterion

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The discussion revolves around proving the absolute convergence of the series ∑ (-1)j/(√j + √(j+1)). Participants explore various convergence tests, including the Leibniz criterion and the minorant criterion, while attempting to analyze the behavior of the series.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the application of the Leibniz test to determine convergence and express uncertainty about proving absolute convergence. They question the choice of series for comparison in the limit comparison test and explore the implications of their findings regarding the divergence of related series.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their attempts and questioning the validity of their reasoning. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of partial sums and comparisons to known divergent series, but no consensus has been reached on the absolute convergence of the original series.

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Participants note the challenge of finding a suitable divergent series for comparison and express confusion about the application of certain convergence criteria. There is an acknowledgment of the limitations of their current understanding of the minorant criterion.

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Homework Statement



Hi everybody! I'm stuck on a problem in which I don't manage to prove absolute convergence (or not) of the series ∑ (-1)j/(√j + √(j+1)).

Homework Equations



Leibniz criterion, minorant criterion, limit comparison test, maybe others

The Attempt at a Solution



So first I noticed that the series alternates, so I ran the Leibniz test in order to find out if the series converges/diverges:

|an+1| - |an| = 1/(√(j+1) + √(j+2)) - 1/(√j + √(j+1))
= (√j - √(j+2))/[(√(j+1) + √(j+2))⋅(√j + √(j+1))] < 0
⇒ the sequence is monotone decreasing.

lim j→∞ (1/(√j + √(j+1))) = 0
⇒ the series converges.

Now that was rather easy, but I know that in order to prove that the series absolutely converges or not I must find out if the sequence |an| converges or diverges.

And that's my problem. I imagine it being divergent, but I cannot seem to find a known divergent series smaller than 1/(√j + √(j+1)) (which btw can be rewritten as (√(j+1) - √j)). Any hint?

Maybe I'm just using the wrong criterion. I just tried the limit comparison test, which didn't work, but that might be because I never used it (somehow we don't have this criterion in our class though it seems very important!). Any advices about that test? How do you choose your "other series" to run the test with?Thank you very much in advance for your answers.Julien.
 
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Actually I just got an idea: if I factor the √j out, I get:

√(j+1) - √j = √j (√(1+(1/j)) - 1)

which is bigger than √j for all j ≥ 1. √j diverges, therefore √(j+1) - √j diverges too so the original series converges but not absolutely.

Does that make sense? Any advices about the strategies to use for majorant/minorant criterions?

EDIT: Oh no that was wrong... It's actually smaller than √j! :(
 
JulienB said:
Actually I just got an idea: if I factor the √j out, I get:

√(j+1) - √j = √j (√(1+(1/j)) - 1)

which is bigger than √j for all j ≥ 1. √j diverges, therefore √(j+1) - √j diverges too so the original series converges but not absolutely.

Does that make sense? Any advices about the strategies to use for majorant/minorant criterions?

EDIT: Oh no that was wrong... It's actually smaller than √j! :(

After your first step, what about looking at partial sums?
 
JulienB said:

Homework Statement



Hi everybody! I'm stuck on a problem in which I don't manage to prove absolute convergence (or not) of the series ∑ (-1)j/(√j + √(j+1)).

Homework Equations



Leibniz criterion, minorant criterion, limit comparison test, maybe others

The Attempt at a Solution



So first I noticed that the series alternates, so I ran the Leibniz test in order to find out if the series converges/diverges:

|an+1| - |an| = 1/(√(j+1) + √(j+2)) - 1/(√j + √(j+1))
= (√j - √(j+2))/[(√(j+1) + √(j+2))⋅(√j + √(j+1))] < 0
⇒ the sequence is monotone decreasing.

lim j→∞ (1/(√j + √(j+1))) = 0
⇒ the series converges.

Now that was rather easy, but I know that in order to prove that the series absolutely converges or not I must find out if the sequence |an| converges or diverges.

And that's my problem. I imagine it being divergent, but I cannot seem to find a known divergent series smaller than 1/(√j + √(j+1)) (which btw can be rewritten as (√(j+1) - √j)). Any hint?

Maybe I'm just using the wrong criterion. I just tried the limit comparison test, which didn't work, but that might be because I never used it (somehow we don't have this criterion in our class though it seems very important!). Any advices about that test? How do you choose your "other series" to run the test with?Thank you very much in advance for your answers.

Julien.

1. You can do the sum ##S_n = \sum_{i=1}^n [\sqrt{i+1} - \sqrt{i}\:]## explicitly, to obtain a very simple formula for ##S_n## in terms of ##n##.
2. You can, instead, use the fact that ##1/[\sqrt{i+1}+\sqrt{i}] > 2/\sqrt{i+1}##, then use the fact that the "p-series" ##\sum 1/n^p## converges if and only if ##p > 1##. This last fact has been discussed many times in this Forum. Alternatively, you can use the fact that ##1/\sqrt{i+1} > 1/(i+1)## and then use the fact that the harmonic series ##1/n## is divergent.
 
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