Proving an Autonomous First Order ODE is Bounded

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The discussion focuses on proving that the autonomous first-order ordinary differential equations (ODEs) defined by x' = x^2 - y - 1 and y' = x + xy are bounded within the unit circle. Participants emphasize the importance of defining r^2 = x^2 + y^2 and demonstrating that if dr/dt = 0, the radius remains constant, thus confirming boundedness. The conversation highlights the need for clarity in solving the ODE and the relationship between the radius and the behavior of the integral curves.

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Homework Statement


For the following auto. first order ode: x' = x^2 - y -1 , y' = x + x*y, show that each integral curve begins inside the unit circle remains there for all future time.


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Okay, i think what needs to be shown... define a new equation r^2 = x^2 + y^2. Show that if dr/dt = 0, then the radius of the solution is constant, and therefore the ode is bounded. I just do not know how to solve that ode.


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Sorry, this is probably a very simple question and I apologize for the sloppy notation. I first let dy/dx = [(x)(y+1)]/[x^2 - (y+1)]. Then... dx/dy = [x]/[(y+1)] - [1]/[x] . I'm completely lost on how to solve this.
 
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RJq36251 said:
Okay, i think what needs to be shown... define a new equation r^2 = x^2 + y^2. Show that if dr/dt = 0, then the radius of the solution is constant, and therefore the ode is bounded.

Not following that :redface:

you need to show that, if r = 1, then dr/dt < 0 (or if dr/dt = 0, then … ) :smile:
 

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