Proving Coset Properties in Abstract Algebra

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The discussion revolves around proving properties of cosets in the context of abstract algebra, specifically focusing on the relationship between left cosets and subgroup elements.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the definitions of left cosets and the implications of the statement that aH = bH if and only if a-1b ∈ H. Questions arise regarding the starting point for the proof and the clarity of definitions involved.

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The discussion is active, with participants seeking to clarify definitions and explore the properties of cosets. Some guidance has been provided regarding the nature of equivalence classes and the partitioning of the group by cosets, though no consensus or resolution has been reached.

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There is an emphasis on the necessity of understanding the definitions of cosets and subgroups, as well as the implications of the statement being proved. Participants express uncertainty about the initial approach to the problem.

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Question:

Prove the following properties of cosets.

Given:

Let H be a subgroup and let a and b be elements of G.

[tex]H\leq\ G[/tex]

Statement:

[tex]aH=bH \ if\ and\ only\ if\ a^{-1}b\ \epsilon\ H[/tex]

The statement is what I have to prove.

My issue is I don't know how to start off the problem. When I first looked at the statement. I wanted to say that it is only true when a=b. But there is not talk of the groups being abelian. So what I thought was a start to some thinking, did not take me very far.
 
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First of all, you need to say "H is a subgroup of G" or the problem doesn't make sense. Now, what is the definition of "aH" and "bH"? Your remark that "I wanted to say that it is only true when a=b" indicates that you are not clear on that definition.
 
[tex] H\leq\ G [/tex]

That means H is a subgroup of G. So clearly stated.

a and b are elements of G, and "aH" is a left coset with "a" and "bH" is a left coset with "b."
 
vwishndaetr said:
a and b are elements of G, and "aH" is a left coset with "a" and "bH" is a left coset with "b."

But then what is the definition of a "left coset with a"?
 
foxjwill said:
But then what is the definition of a "left coset with a"?
[tex] aH= \{a*h\ |\ h\ \epsilon\ H }\[/tex]

H is a subset. Where h is an element of the set H.
 
vwishndaetr said:
[tex] aH= \{a*h\ |\ h\ \epsilon\ H }\[/tex]

H is a subset. Where h is an element of the set H.

Right. So, what does it mean for the set aH to be equal to the set bH?

Oh, and you can type the "in" symbol using a "\in" and the "not in" symbol using "\notin". I think it formats it better that way.
 
Remember that aH and bH partition the group (since they are equivalence classes defined by a=b if b = ah for some h in H), if you had any two cosets which had a nonzero intersection, then the transitivity of equivalence classes would automatically make the two equal. So to begin with, you know that if c is in aH, then c equals ah for h in H. if d is in bH, it equals d = bh', for h' in H. Your condition for the equivalence classes being equal is that there exists an element c in aH, such that c=bh' for some h' in H.
 
Yup thanks. I had one of my professors explain it to me. Forgot to post up.

Thanks though! :)
 

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