Proving Determinant(AB)=det(A)det(B)

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The problem involves proving the property that the determinant of the product of two matrices, denoted as determinant(AB), equals the product of their determinants, expressed as det(A)det(B). The subject area is linear algebra, specifically focusing on properties of determinants.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss various methods to prove the determinant property, including using elementary matrices and induction. Some express a desire for a more elegant proof, while others question the clarity of certain explanations regarding matrix elements and their roles in the proof.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different approaches and clarifying definitions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of elementary matrices and triangular matrices, but no consensus has been reached on a single method.

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There are mentions of the need for matrices A and B to adhere to the row-column multiplication rule for the determinant property to hold. Additionally, some participants express confusion over the notation used in the explanations.

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Homework Statement

the problem is to prove that determinant(AB)=det(A)det(B)



Homework Equations


i don't think there is any equation. :(


The Attempt at a Solution

i can figure it out by taking arbitrary elements in rows and columns , but i was wondering if i can prove it in a more elegant way.
thanks a lot!
 
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You can use a few different methods.
One way is to say that an invertible matrix is the product of elementary matrices, use some knowledge about determinants of elementary matrices (det(EA) = det(E)det(A) if E is elementary.) and do an induction proof.There is also another way where you need to know that:

You can turn a square matrix into a triangular matrix that doesn't change the determinant (up to a sign change).

The product of two triangular matrices is also triangular.

The determinant of a triangular matrix is the product of the diagonal elements.
 
touch the sky said:

Homework Statement

the problem is to prove that determinant(AB)=det(A)det(B)



Homework Equations


i don't think there is any equation. :(


The Attempt at a Solution

i can figure it out by taking arbitrary elements in rows and columns , but i was wondering if i can prove it in a more elegant way.
thanks a lot!

When I was a little girl I used to ask these types of question all the time, but discovered if you first read the paragraphs then you discover something wonderful like.

The property that det(AB) = Det(A) \cdot Det(B) can be proven using standard operations.
You remember that AB =[a_1, a_2,\ldots a_n] \cdot B if you then take the Det on both sides of the equality You will get Det(AB) = Det([a_1, a_2,\ldots a_n]) \cdot Det(B) this fact works on both singular and non-singular cases.

Enjoy :)
 
Susanne217 said:
When I was a little girl I used to ask these types of question all the time, but discovered if you first read the paragraphs then you discover something wonderful like.

The property that det(AB) = Det(A) \cdot Det(B) can be proven using standard operations.
You remember that AB =[a_1, a_2,\ldots a_n] \cdot B
This doesn't make any sense if you don't say what "a_1", "a_2", etc. are to start with! Are they rows of A or columns of A? And what do you mean by that product?

if you then take the Det on both sides of the equality You will get Det(AB) = Det([a_1, a_2,\ldots a_n]) \cdot Det(B) this fact works on both singular and non-singular cases.

Enjoy :)
 
HallsofIvy said:
This doesn't make any sense if you don't say what "a_1", "a_2", etc. are to start with! Are they rows of A or columns of A? And what do you mean by that product?

You are right :)

a_1, a_2, \cdots a_n are row in the matrix A. I also forgot to mention for this be allowed then A and B must live up to the row column rule :)
 

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