Proving Inequality: Solving Im(z) and Re(z) with Triangle Inequality

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The discussion revolves around proving an inequality involving the sine function of a complex variable, specifically focusing on the imaginary and real parts of the complex number. Participants are exploring the application of the triangle inequality and other mathematical properties to establish the validity of the inequality presented.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss various attempts to apply the triangle inequality and reverse triangle inequality. Some suggest breaking the problem into two parts, while others question the validity of certain steps taken in the proofs. There is also a focus on ensuring clarity in the manipulation of expressions and the necessity of showing all steps in the reasoning.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing guidance on how to approach the problem step by step. There is a recognition of the need to clarify assumptions and definitions, as well as to verify the correctness of the steps taken in the proofs. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored without a clear consensus yet.

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Some participants note the importance of showing all steps in the proof process and question the original statement of the problem for potential typos or misunderstandings. The complexity of the inequality and the need for careful handling of absolute values are also highlighted.

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Hello
I need to prove this inequality:
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where y=im(z) ,x=Re(z).

I used the triangle inequality but I got stuck.
Can someone show me how to do it? specially the left side of the inequality.
thanks
 
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Show what you have tried, and where you got stuck.

That way it will be easier for use to give the appropriate help.
 
Don't forget about the reverse triangle inequality: |x - y| >= ||x| - |y||
 
It will be easier to break this into two problems. First prove that \left| sin z \right| \leq \frac{e^{y} + e^{-y}}{2} , then prove that \left| sin z \right| \geq \frac{e^{\left| y \right|} + e^{- \left| y \right|}}{2}.

Also, use \left| sin z \right| = \frac{e^{i(x+iy)} - e^{-i(x+iy)}}{2i} .
 
sir_manning said:
It will be easier to break this into two problems. First prove that \left| sin z \right| \leq \frac{e^{y} + e^{-y}}{2} , then prove that \left| sin z \right| \geq \frac{e^{\left| y \right|} + e^{- \left| y \right|}}{2}.

Also, use \left| sin z \right| = \frac{e^{i(x+iy)} - e^{-i(x+iy)}}{2i} .

That's what i did. can you please look at my answer? isn't it correct?
thank you.
 
Sorry, I see that you did write \left| sin z \right| = \frac{e^{i(x+iy)} - e^{-i(x+iy)}}{2i}. However, I don't understand how you came up with your answer: where did the absolute value signs in \left| \frac{e^{y} + e^{-y}}{2} \right| emerge from? You can't just insert them. And how did you re-arrange the inequality? Was there a typo in your original statement of the problem? In any case, your answer doesn't prove the inequality, because I cannot see its validity just by looking at it. With these types of problems, you really need to break it down to something like -e^{-y} \leq e^{-y} \; \Rightarrow \; -1 \leq 1, which we can all agree is true. Also, in proofs you *need* to show your steps, and you always should here anyways so we can help you out.

Alright, let's try doing this one part at a time. First, prove that:

\left| sin z \right| \leq \frac{e^{y} + e^{-y}}{2}, or

\left| \frac{e^{i(x+iy)} - e^{-i(x+iy)}}{2i} \right| \leq \frac{e^{y} + e^{-y}}{2}. Cancel the 2's, multiply by i/i and rearrange exponentials on the left,

\left| -i e^{ix} e^{-y} + i e^{-ix} e^y \right| \leq e^{y} + e^{-y} ...Now try applying the triangle inequality to this. After proving this, a similar approach is used for \left| sin z \right| \geq \frac{e^{\left| y \right|} + e^{- \left| y \right|}}{2}
 
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