Proving lim[(2n+1)/(5n-2)] = 2/5 using the ϵ-N definition of limit

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The discussion revolves around proving the limit of the sequence (2n+1)/(5n-2) as n approaches infinity using the ϵ-N definition of limits. Participants are exploring the mathematical reasoning behind establishing this limit and the necessary conditions for the proof.

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  • Participants are attempting to apply the ϵ-N definition to show that the expression approaches 2/5. They discuss how to manipulate the inequality to satisfy the limit condition and question the steps needed to ensure the expression is less than ε.

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Some participants are providing guidance on how to derive the necessary inequalities, while others are questioning the validity of related proofs and assumptions. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of the limit and convergence concepts.

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There are references to specific inequalities and conditions that need to be satisfied for the proof, as well as discussions about the convergence of related series. Some participants express uncertainty about the correctness of certain statements made in the context of convergence.

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ϵ-N definition of limit

Use the ϵ-N definition of limit to prove that lim[(2n+1)/(5n-2)] = 2/5 as n goes to infinity.

The way I do it is Let ∊ > 0 be given. Notice N ∈ natural number (N) which satisfies {fill this box later}< N. It follows that if n>=N, then n > {fill this box later}, so for such n, |(2n+1)/(5n-2)-2/5| = |9/(25n-10)| = 9/5|1/(5n-2)|

I am supposed to get to a something that is less than ∊

How to make this to less than ∊?
 
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Askhwhelp said:
Use the ϵ-N definition of limit to prove that lim[(2n+1)/(5n-2)] = 2/5 as n goes to infinity.

The way I do it is Let ∊ > 0 be given. Notice N ∈ natural number (N) which satisfies {fill this box later}< N. It follows that if n>=N, then n > {fill this box later}, so for such n, |(2n+1)/(5n-2)-2/5| = |9/(25n-10)| = 9/5|1/(5n-2)|

I am supposed to get to a something that is less than ∊

How to make this to less than ∊?

You are over halfway there. If you want 9/5|1/(5n-2)|<ε, you want 1/|5n-2|<5ε/9. 5n-2 is positive so you can drop the absolute value. Now turn it into an inequality for n.
 
Limit and Convergence

Suppose a_n > 0 and b_n > 0 for all n in natural number (N). Also, lim a_n/b_n = 0 as n goes to infinity. Then the sum of a_n converges if and only if the sum of b_n converges ...both from 1 to infinity.

My approach is that lim a_n/b_n = 0 means that there exists N in natural number (N) for which |a_n/b_n - 0| < 0 for all n >= N. Then 0 < a_n < 0. The sum of a_n from 1 to infinity is 0. So The sum of a_n from 1 to infinity is convergent.

Is this proof that easy or I miss something?
 
Askhwhelp said:
Suppose a_n > 0 and b_n > 0 for all n in natural number (N). Also, lim a_n/b_n = 0 as n goes to infinity. Then the sum of a_n converges if and only if the sum of b_n converges ...both from 1 to infinity.
The 'only if' part is clearly false. Pick a_n = 2^-n, b_n = 1. Should it have said lim a_n/b_n = c > 0?
 

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