Solving the Limit of a Sequence: 5n^2/(n^2+2)

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The discussion revolves around finding the limit of the sequence defined by the expression 5n²/(n² + 2) as n approaches infinity. Participants are exploring the concept of limits in calculus, particularly focusing on indeterminate forms.

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  • Participants discuss the nature of the indeterminate form ∞/∞ and question why the expression leads to this classification. There are attempts to understand the implications of dividing by n² and how terms become negligible as n increases.

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The conversation is active, with participants providing hints and questioning each other's reasoning. There is a focus on understanding the concept of limits and the behavior of terms in the expression as n grows larger. Some guidance has been offered regarding the treatment of negligible terms.

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Participants are grappling with the definitions and implications of indeterminate forms, particularly in the context of limits involving infinity. There is a mention of L'Hôpital's rule as a potential method for resolving the limit, but no consensus on its application has been reached.

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1. Finding the limit of the sequence:

{ an } = 5n^(2) / (n^(2) + 2)





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3. what i did was :

lim as (n -> Infinity) of function [5n^(2) / (n^(2) + 2)]


Then factored out the constant:


5{lim as (n -> Infinity) of function [n^(2) / (n^(2) + 2)]}

so at this point i plug in infinity for the function
and this is where i need help.

how is it of the indeterminate form infinity/infinity.

when i plug it in i get infinity / (infinity + 2)

so isn't it just infinity?
 
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hi physics=world! :smile:
physics=world said:
how is it of the indeterminate form infinity/infinity.

when i plug it in i get infinity / (infinity + 2)

so isn't it just infinity?

an indeterminate form is exactly that … indeterminate!

ie, you can't give it a value

∞/∞ can be 0 or ∞ or anything in between

hint: divide top and bottom by n2 :wink:
 
hmm it works when i use your hint.. dividing be n^2

but i just can't understand why it is of indeterminate form infinity/infinity

when i plug it in i get infinity / (infinity + 2) which would equal [infinity / 2] ?

so would that be just infinity?

im trying to understand it so i can use L'Hospitals rule.
 
hi physics=world! :smile:

i don't understand this line …
physics=world said:
when i plug it in i get infinity / (infinity + 2) which would equal [infinity / 2] ?

where did the ∞ on the bottom go? :confused:

∞ is lot larger than 2 (!), so why are you ignoring it, instead of ignoring the 2 ? :wink:
 
The aim with limits is to avoid writing n=\infty by thinking about what happens as n gets larger and larger. Some terms become less and less significant as n grows. You describe them as 'negligible' and drop them and, if the limit is nice, the answer drops out.

Which term becomes negligible?
 
what i was thinking was that infinity was like 0. so i just thought it would be infinity over 2.

so, the 2 is supposed to be ignored?
 
physics=world said:
what i was thinking was that infinity was like 0

no!

∞ is as different from 0 as you can get …

a reasonably safe rule is that anything you can do with 0, you can't do with ∞ ! :smile:
so, the 2 is supposed to be ignored?

yup! :biggrin:
 
so for example if it was say 5 / infinity

would the answer be zero? or infinity? or undefined?
 
physics=world said:
so for example if it was say 5 / infinity

would the answer be zero? or infinity? or undefined?
only ∞/∞ is undefined

anything-else/∞ is 0 (because anything-else is negligible compared with ∞) :wink:
 

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