Proving Linear Independence of Non-Zero Rows in Row-Echelon Form

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The discussion centers on proving the linear independence of a set of vectors, particularly in the context of row-echelon form matrices. It begins with a question about demonstrating that if a set of vectors is linearly independent and an additional vector is not in their span, then the combined set remains independent. The initial attempt outlines a proof by contradiction, showing that if the additional vector were dependent, it would contradict its independence from the span. The conversation then shifts to proving that non-zero rows in row-echelon form are linearly independent, suggesting an inductive approach based on the increasing number of non-zero components in the rows. The final clarification emphasizes that while the position of the vectors in the matrix is not crucial, the focus should remain on the non-zero row vectors themselves.
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Hi, can someone help me with the following question?

Q. Show that if \left\{ {\mathop {v_1 }\limits^ \to ,...,\mathop {v_k }\limits^ \to } \right\} is linearly independent and \mathop {v_{k + 1} }\limits^ \to \notin span\left\{ {\mathop {v_1 }\limits^ \to ,...,\mathop {v_k }\limits^ \to } \right\} then \left\{ {\mathop {v_1 }\limits^ \to ,...,\mathop {v_k }\limits^ \to ,\mathop {v_{k + 1} }\limits^ \to } \right\} is linearly independent. Use this to prove that the non-zero rows of a matrix in row-echelon form are linearly independent.

Here is my attempt.

Write \alpha _1 \mathop {v_1 }\limits^ \to + ... + \alpha _k \mathop {v_k }\limits^ \to + \beta \mathop {v_{k + 1} }\limits^ \to = \mathop 0\limits^ \to ...\left( 1 \right)

<br /> \beta \mathop {v_{k + 1} }\limits^ \to = - \left( {\alpha _1 \mathop {v_1 }\limits^ \to + ... + \alpha _k \mathop {v_k }\limits^ \to } \right)<br />

If \beta \ne 0 then \mathop {v_{k + 1} }\limits^ \to = - \left( {\frac{{\alpha _1 }}{\beta }\mathop {v_1 }\limits^ \to + ...\frac{{\alpha _k }}{\beta }\mathop {v_k }\limits^ \to } \right) but this is impossible since \mathop {v_{k + 1} }\limits^ \to \notin span\left\{ {\mathop {v_1 }\limits^ \to ,...,\mathop {v_k }\limits^ \to } \right\}

So beta is equal to zero and equation one reduces to \alpha _1 \mathop {v_1 }\limits^ \to + ... + \alpha _k \mathop {v_k }\limits^ \to = \mathop 0\limits^ \to where all of the a_i are equal to zero by hypothesis. Is that enough to show the given result?

I can't think of a way to tackle the second part with the matrix. Seeing as that's the case I'll just write out whatever I can think of.

I think the key idea is that in row echelon form, each time I 'move up' one row, the vector(represented by a row in the matrix) has at least one additional non-zero component. So let A be the n by k (n columns and k rows) matrix in row echelon form whose rows are the vectors v_i where i = 1,...,k and each of the vectors has at least one non-zero component.

Starting at the bottom of the matrix and moving up to the first non-zero row I a vector which has c non-zero components call it v_1 and {(v_1)} is linearly independent since it consists of a non-zero single vector. Moving up to the next row I get another vector call it v_2 which has at least c + 1 non-zero components. Since v_2 has more non-zero components than v_1 then {v_1, v_2} is linearly independent. From here I'd probably just continue with the same argument. The problem is that what I've said is a pretty clumsy explanation. I wasn't really sure how to do this question either. So can someone please help me with this?

Edit: Ok my attempt for the second part is completely incorrect because I could have something like v_1 = (0,0,1,0,0) and v_2 = (1,0,0,0,0). Help would be appreciated.
 
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Do the second part by induction.
n=1 case
the vector is not zero so is linearly independent
n+1 case
n vectors are independent
if (n+1)st vector is in span(first n vectors) the matrix is not in row-echelon form
therfore (n+1)st vector is not in span
thus n+1 vectors are linearly independent
 
Thanks for te help lurflurf. However, I am not sure how my answer should be worded. The question refers to a matrix so would I need to make some reference to the matrix? If so how would I do it in a clear and concise manner? For example, do I need to mention the position of the vectors(represented as rows) in the matrix?
 
Benny said:
Thanks for te help lurflurf. However, I am not sure how my answer should be worded. The question refers to a matrix so would I need to make some reference to the matrix? If so how would I do it in a clear and concise manner? For example, do I need to mention the position of the vectors(represented as rows) in the matrix?
The matrix is a representation. You can consider the set of the nonzero row vectors. The position of the vectors is not important.
Just say something like
let v1,...,vn be the nonzero row vectors
 
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