Number of indie vectors ##\leq ## cardinality of spanning set

So you could start by saying "Let ##u_1, \dots, u_n## be a minimal spanning set for the space. Then for every spanning set ##v_1, \dots, v_m##, with ##m > n##, we have the following contradiction..."In summary, the given statement is proven by assuming a minimal spanning set and any other spanning list, with a greater length, to show a contradiction. This implies that the length of every linearly independent list of vectors is less than or equal to the length of every spanning list.
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Homework Statement


In a finite-dimensional vector space, the length of every linearly independent list of vectors is less than or equal to the length of every spanning list.
It's quite long :nb), hope you guys read through it. Thanks! :smile:

Homework Equations


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The Attempt at a Solution


Let ##\{v_1, \cdots, v_m\}## be linearly independent and ##\{u_1, \cdots, u_m\}## spans V. Note that ##\{v_1, \cdots, v_m\} \subseteq \operatorname{span}(u_1, \cdots, u_n)## which implies ##\forall i=1,\cdots,m## ##v_i=\sum_{j=1}^{n}a_{j}u_{j}##. Suppose that ##n \lt m## and let ##v_1=\sum_{i=1}^{m}a_{i}u_{i}##,##\quad## ##v_2=\sum_{i=1}^{m}b_{i}u_{i}##,##\quad## ##\cdots##, ##\quad## ##v_3=\sum_{i=1}^{m}\eta_{i}u_{i}##. Observe that
\begin{align}
\delta_{1}v_1+\delta_{2}v_2+\cdots +\delta_{n}v_{n}=v_k; \quad k \in \{n+1,\cdots ,m\}\\
\Longleftrightarrow \delta_{1}(\sum_{i=1}^{m}a_{i}u_{i})+\delta_{2}(\sum_{i=1}^{m}b_{i}u_{i})+\cdots +\delta_n(\sum_{i=1}^{m}\eta_{i}u_{i}) &=v_k\\
\Longleftrightarrow \delta_1(a_{1}u_{1}+\cdots +a_{m}u_{m})+\delta_2(b_{1}u_{1}+\cdots +b_{m}u_{m})+\cdots +\delta_n(\eta_{1}u_{1}+\cdots +\eta_{m}u_{m}) &=v_k\\
\Longleftrightarrow (\delta_{1}a_{1}+\cdots +\delta_{n}\eta_{1})u_{1}+\cdots +(\delta_{1}a_{m}+\cdots +\delta_{n}\eta_{m})u_{m} &=v_{k}
\end{align}
Since ##\exists \xi_{i}\in\Bbb{F}## such that ##\xi_{1}u_1+\cdots +\xi_{m}u_m=v_{k}##, then by solving the following system of linear equations
\begin{align}
\delta_{1}a_{1}+\cdots +\delta_{n}\eta_{1} &= \xi_1\\
\vdots\\
\delta_{1}a_{m}+\cdots +\delta_{n}\eta_{m} &= \xi_{m}
\end{align}
we obtain the necessary ##\delta_{i}'s## so that ##\sum_{i=1}^{n}\delta_{i}v_{i}=v_k##. Since ##n \neq m##, there could either be non-unique solutions or no solutions. We consider the two scenarios.
Case 1: infinite solutions; By definition of a basis, ##\{v_1,\cdots ,v_n\}## cannot form a basis due to the required uniqueness of expressing ##v_k## with respect to the set of vectors ##\{v_1,\cdots ,v_n\}##. But ##\operatorname{span}(v_1, \cdots, v_n) \neq V## so it must be that ##\{v_1, \cdots , v_n\}## is not linearly independent. We have a contradiction.
Case 2: No solution; then ##v_k \notin \operatorname{span}(v_1, \cdots, v_n)## which implies ##\delta_{1}v_1 + \delta_{2}v_2 + \cdots + \delta_{n}v_n + \delta_{n+1}v_k = 0## if and only if all ##\delta_{i}'s## equal zero. Equivalently,
\begin{align}
& \Longleftrightarrow (\delta_{1}a_{1}+\cdots +\delta_{n}\eta_{1}+\delta_{n+1}\xi_{1})u_{1}+\cdots +(\delta_{1}a_{m}+\cdots +\delta_{n}\eta_{m}+\delta_{n+1}\xi_{m})u_{m} = 0\\
& \Longleftrightarrow \forall i=1,\cdots, m \quad \delta_{1}a_i+\cdots +\delta_{n}\eta_i+\delta_{n+1}\xi_i =0
\end{align}
But, if we let ##\delta_{n+1}=\frac{-(\delta_{1}a_i+ \cdots +\delta_{n}\eta_i)}{\xi_i}##, ##\forall i=1, \cdots, m##, then ##\exists \delta_i \neq 0## such that ##(\sum_{i=1}^{n}\delta_{i}v_i)+\delta_{n+1}v_k=0##. This implies the set of vectors ##\{v_1, v_2\cdots,v_n, v_k\}## is not linearly independent. We have another contradiction.

##\therefore## ##m \leq n##.o0)
 
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It might be easier to assume that you have a set of m lin. independent vectors and a spanning set with n vectors, with m > n. If you get a contradiction (which should be easier to do than what you did), you're done.

Also, it looks like you have a typo in the first line of your proof. The two sets -- the linearly independent vectors and the spanning set, shouldn't have the same final index of m.
 
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Mark44 said:
it looks like you have a typo in the first line of your proof.
Yes. It should be ##\{u_1,\cdots, u_n\}##
Mark44 said:
It might be easier to assume that you have a set of m lin. independent vectors and a spanning set with n vectors, with m > n.
I believe this is what I did. At line 2, my third sentence starts with suppose ##m \lt n##. Then I got a contradiction in the end. But as what you've probably already notice, my proof seems more complicated than it should be. So I have a feeling that I might have an incorrect use of contradiction. :nb)
 
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Terrell said:
Yes. It should be ##\{u_1,\cdots, u_n\}##

I believe this is what I did. At line 2, my third sentence starts with suppose ##m \lt n##.
Actually what you wrote is "Suppose that n < m..." which is correct for a proof by contradiction if your spanning set is ##\{u_1, u_2, \dots, u_n \}##
Terrell said:
Then I got a contradiction in the end. But as what you've probably already notice, my proof seems more complicated than it should be. So I have a feeling that I might have an incorrect use of contradiction. :nb)
Yes, your proof seems more complicated than it needs to be, in part because of the use of lots more letters than are needed.

For example, instead of having coefficients of ##a_i, b_i,## and ##\eta_i##, just use two subscripts. So ##v_i = \sum_{j = 1}^n a_{i~j}u_j##. If you write the equations for ##v_1, v_2, \dots, v_n## in the form of a matrix product, you have ##\vec v = A \vec u##, where A is a matrix with m rows and n columns.


I think you can assume without loss of generality that the u vectors are a minimal spanning set; i.e., a basis for the space. Since you need to prove the given statement for every spanning list, it doesn't matter if you prove it for the smallest spanning set.
 
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