Proving |N(P)| for Prime P in S(p) - Dummit & Foote

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The discussion revolves around proving a property related to the normalizer of a subgroup in the symmetric group, specifically for a prime order subgroup in S(p). The original poster is struggling with understanding the conjugacy of the subgroup P and its implications for the normalizer N(P).

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the nature of the subgroup P, questioning its structure and the elements it contains. There is a discussion about the conjugacy classes and the cycle structure of permutations, particularly focusing on p-cycles.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the properties of cyclic groups and their conjugates. Some guidance has been offered regarding the structure of P and its conjugates, but there is still uncertainty about the necessity of all conjugates being p-cycles.

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There is an assumption that P is a cyclic subgroup of prime order, which influences the discussion on its conjugates. The participants are also navigating the implications of the order of elements and the cycle structure in the context of symmetric groups.

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I'm reading my textbook (Dummit & Foote) and having trouble at conjugacy section , here's the question:

Prove that if p is a prime and P is a subgroup of S(p) of order p, then
| N (P) | = p(p-1). (Argue that every conjugate of P contains exactly p-1 p-cycles and use the formula for the number of p-cycles to compute the index of
N(P) in S(p) .
N(P) : normalizer of P in S(p).

I reaaly have no clue , can someone help??
 
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Suppose, as you say, that [tex]P[/tex] is a subgroup of [tex]\mathfrak{S}_p[/tex] of order [tex]p[/tex]. What can the elements of [tex]P[/tex] be, in concrete terms? There aren't that many choices.

Also, given a permutation [tex]\sigma \in \mathfrak{S}_p[/tex], there is a general way to write down the elements of its conjugacy class [tex]\{ \pi\sigma\pi^{-1} \mid \pi \in \mathfrak{S}_p \}[/tex]. (It helps to write out [tex]\sigma[/tex] in cycle decomposition first.)
 
I think that P must be cyclic (since it's of prime order ) so it's generated by an element of order p , which must be an p-cycle.Am I right?
 
Right. So if [tex]\kappa[/tex] is a [tex]p[/tex]-cycle, and [tex]P = \langle\kappa\rangle[/tex] is the subgroup generated by [tex]\kappa[/tex], what can the conjugates [tex]\pi P \pi^{-1}[/tex] look like?
 
Well, conjugates have the same cycle structure.Conjugate of P has also p elements , but I still can't see why they must be all p-cycles.
 

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