Proving Permutation Identity: Ʃ(n choose k)(m-n choose n-k) = (m choose n)

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The discussion revolves around proving the identity Ʃ(n choose k)(m-n choose n-k) = (m choose n), where the summation is from k = 0 to k = n. This falls under the subject area of combinatorics, specifically dealing with binomial coefficients and permutations.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss various methods for proving the identity, including induction and direct approaches. Some question how to interpret the components of the identity in terms of choosing elements from sets.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants offering hints and exploring different interpretations of the identity. There is a suggestion to consider the binomial expansion as a potential avenue for proof, indicating a productive direction in the conversation.

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Some participants express uncertainty about the initial attempts at proof and the effectiveness of various methods, highlighting the complexity of the identity being discussed.

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1. Prove the following identity:
Ʃ(n choose k)(m-n choose n-k) = (m choose n)
from k = 0 to k = n


I've tried induction, and just played around with a few properties of permutations, but nothing seems to satisfy the proof, any ideas?
 
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Hi Brandon1994! :smile:

If you choose n things from m,

how many of those n will be in the first n, and how many will be in the last n-m ? :wink:
 
I would use a direct approach: Show that the left side is the number of ways to choose n elements out of a set of m elements. The sum is very intuitive if you see what it does.

Edit: tiny-tim, don't make it too easy ;).
 
mfb said:
Edit: tiny-tim, don't make it too easy ;).

hi mfb! :smile:

i assumed he'd already tried to split the sum, and needed an extra hint :wink:
 
Brandon1994 said:
1. Prove the following identity:
Ʃ(n choose k)(m-n choose n-k) = (m choose n)
from k = 0 to k = n


I've tried induction, and just played around with a few properties of permutations, but nothing seems to satisfy the proof, any ideas?


Hint: (n choose k) is called the binomial coefficient for a good reason: it appears in the binomial expansion! Exploit that fact.
 

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