Proving Singularity of 3x3 Matrix with a1+2a2-a3=0 | A is Singular

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The discussion confirms that a 3x3 matrix A, defined by the equation a1 + 2a2 - a3 = 0, is singular. The proof relies on the existence of nontrivial solutions to the homogeneous equation Ax = 0, where the solution vector x includes both the trivial solution (0 vector) and a nontrivial solution (1, -2, 1). Since the existence of multiple solutions indicates that A is not invertible, it is established that A must be singular.

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If A is a 3 x 3 matrix a1+2a2-a3=0, then A must be singular.
I have the answering being true but how do I prove it?
 
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Dustinsfl said:

Homework Statement


If A is a 3 x 3 matrix a1+2a2-a3=0, then A must be singular.
I have the answering being true but how do I prove it?

Assuming a_i are columns or rows, then sure. Let's assume you row/column reduce something as far as you can.

We have two cases:
Case 1:
You end up with the identity. Taking the determinant, you'll get a nonzero number which will be affected by the row/column operations you did (like if you swapped rows and whatnot).

Case 2:
You have a row/col of zeroes somewhere.
Taking the determinant of this will give you zero (hence singular).

Since a_1 + 2a_2 - a_3 = 0, this implies that a_1 + 2a_2 = a_3.

What case is the matrix in? Why?
 
We can't prove it using determinants. The equation is in the form Ax=b. Where x is the column vector 1,2,-1.
 
Dustinsfl said:
We can't prove it using determinants. The equation is in the form Ax=b. Where x is the column vector 1,2,-1.

What does that have to do with anything? According your original post, this deals only with the matrix A. What does that particular equation have anything to do with whether A is singular or not?
 
Because that column vector is used in proving the singularity but I don't know how to do it.
 
Dustinsfl said:
Because that column vector is used in proving the singularity but I don't know how to do it.
I don't understand the question. The vector in question has nothing to do with that.

What are the ai? If they are columns/rows, you don't need that column vector. What is b, anyways?
 
Column vector b is the 0 vector. It has to do with homogeneous equations have trivial and solutions. That is how A is suppose to be proving for the question.
 
Dustinsfl said:
Column vector b is the 0 vector. It has to do with homogeneous equations have trivial and solutions. That is how A is suppose to be proving for the question.

Oooooh! I got you. This seems simple enough.

Consider any general system Ax = b.

If A was invertible, what does this tell you about x?
 
x is the inverse if and only if b is the I
 
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Dustinsfl said:
x is the inverse if and only if b is the I

No no. x can't be the inverse of anything because x is a column vector. x is a solution to this equation. What kind of solution, though? Hint: Is it the only solution?
 
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Nontrivial solution
 
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Dustinsfl said:
Nontrivial solution

There are no "trivial" solutions if b is not the zero vector. So, if A is invertible and b is not the zero vector, does there exist a y such that Ay = b and x =/= y ? That is to say, is x unique?
 
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It is giving that b is the 0 vector. I am not sure if it is unique or how to show if it isn't.
 
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Dustinsfl said:
It is giving that b is the 0 vector. I am not sure if it is unique or how to show if it isn't.

The fact b is the zero vector is the key part in the proof, because it guarantees you a solution. It guarantees you the trivial solution of x = 0. According to the problem at hand, you also have another solution of the form x = <1,-2,1>. Therefore, x is not unique.

Is there any way of connection uniqueness of solutions with whether A is invertible?
 
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The system Ax=b of n linear equations in n unknowns has a unique solution if and only if A is nonsingular. Since x can be the 0 vector and vector <1,2,-1>, the solution isn't unique; therefore, A must be singular.
 
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Dustinsfl said:
The system Ax=b of n linear equations in n unknowns has a unique solution if and only if A is nonsingular. Since x can be the 0 vector and vector <1,2,-1>, the solution isn't unique; therefore, A must be singular.

Correct!
 
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Thanks
 

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