Proving $\tan^{-1}(-x)=-\tan^{-1}(x)$

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The discussion revolves around proving the identity $$\tan^{-1}(-x)=-\tan^{-1}(x)$$, which involves the properties of the inverse tangent function and its relationship with the tangent function. Participants explore the mathematical reasoning behind this identity and the implications of using graphical interpretations in formal proofs.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants attempt to manipulate the tangent function and its inverse to establish the identity. There are discussions on whether graphical insights can be used in formal proofs, and some participants question the validity of their approaches and the assumptions made regarding functions and their inverses.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and questioning each other's reasoning. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between functions and their inverses, but there is no explicit consensus on the proof structure or the use of graphical methods.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of the function being one-to-one to have an inverse, and there are mentions of domain restrictions necessary for the tangent function to be invertible. The conversation reflects on the implications of these constraints in the context of the proof.

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Homework Statement


Prove:
$$\tan^{-1}(-x)=-\tan^{-1}(x)$$
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Homework Equations


Inverse tangent: ##\tan(y)=x~\rightarrow~y=\tan^{-1}(x)##

The Attempt at a Solution


$$\tan(-x)=\frac{\sin(-x)}{\cos(-x)}=\frac{-\sin(x)}{\cos(x)}=-\tan(x)$$
I just change the unknown x to y:
$$\tan(-y)=\tan(y)$$
Now i have to translate it. we know:
$$\tan^{-1}(x)=\tan y~\rightarrow~-\tan^{-1}(x)=-\tan y$$
But:
$$\tan^{-1}(-x)~\rightarrow~\tan(y)=-x$$
Only from looking on the graph i can say ##\tan(-y)=-x## and finish but am i allowed to?
 
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Karol said:

Homework Statement


Prove:
$$\tan^{-1}(-x)=-\tan^{-1}(x)$$
View attachment 108677

Homework Equations


Inverse tangent: ##\tan(y)=x~\rightarrow~y=\tan^{-1}(x)##

The Attempt at a Solution


$$\tan(-x)=\frac{\sin(-x)}{\cos(-x)}=\frac{-\sin(x)}{\cos(x)}=-\tan(x)$$
I just change the unknown x to y:
$$\tan(-y)=\tan(y)$$
Now i have to translate it. we know:
$$\tan^{-1}(x)=\tan y~\rightarrow~-\tan^{-1}(x)=-\tan y$$
But:
$$\tan^{-1}(-x)~\rightarrow~\tan(y)=-x$$
Only from looking on the graph i can say ##\tan(-y)=-x## and finish but am i allowed to?

In a formal proof you cannot look at a graph to make conclusions. You only can use them to illustrate your proof but your proof should stand on its own.
 
Karol said:

The Attempt at a Solution


$$\tan(-x)=\frac{\sin(-x)}{\cos(-x)}=\frac{-\sin(x)}{\cos(x)}=-\tan(x)$$

Why not use ##y## in these equations and then let ##x = tan^{-1}(y)##?
 
PeroK said:
Why not use ##y## in these equations and then let ##x = tan^{-1}(y)##?
$$\left\{ \begin{array}{l} \tan(-y)=-\tan(y) \\ x=tan^{-1}(y) \end{array} \right.$$
##\tan(-y)=-\tan(y)## refers to the function:
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While ##x = tan^{-1}(y)~\rightarrow~\tan(x)=y## refers to a different function:
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Karol said:
$$\left\{ \begin{array}{l} \tan(-y)=-\tan(y) \\ x=tan^{-1}(y) \end{array} \right.$$
##\tan(-y)=-\tan(y)## refers to the function:
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While ##x = tan^{-1}(y)~\rightarrow~\tan(x)=y## refers to a different function:
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But you do know that ##y = f(x) \iff x = f^{-1}(y)##, assuming that f has an inverse function?

A function and its inverse are related to each other, and that's exactly what you can use.
 
@Karol

What about:

##x = \tan^{-1}(y)##

##y = \tan(x)##

##-y = -\tan(x)##

Can you pick it up from there?
 
PeroK said:
@Karol
What about:
##x = \tan^{-1}(y)##
##y = \tan(x)##
##-y = -\tan(x)##
Can you pick it up from there?
I use ##\tan(-x)=-\tan(x)## to get:
$$-y = -\tan(x)=\tan(-x)~\rightarrow~-y=\tan(-x)$$
$$-y=\tan(-x)~\rightarrow~\tan^{-1}(-y)=-x$$
$$\left\{ \begin{array} {l} \tan^{-1}(-y)=-x \\ \tan^{-1}(y)=x \end{array} \right\}~\rightarrow~-\tan^{-1}(y)=\tan^{-1}(-y)$$
$$\rightarrow~-\tan^{-1}(x)=\tan^{-1}(-x)$$
Math_QED said:
But you do know that ##y = f(x) \iff x = f^{-1}(y)##, assuming that f has an inverse function?
A function and its inverse are related to each other
An inverse function is only the graph rotated -900, so why "assuming that f has an inverse function", there always is an inverse, no?
And why "A function and its inverse are related to each other"? they don't, they are completely different ones, also, no?
I mean if ##y=\tan(x)## then, if i rotate the graph and take from that y, again, ##\tan(y)## i will get something that has nothing in common with the original x.
 
Karol said:
An inverse function is only the graph rotated -900, so why "assuming that f has an inverse function", there always is an inverse, no?
And why "A function and its inverse are related to each other"? they don't, they are completely different ones, also, no?
I mean if ##y=\tan(x)## then, if i rotate the graph and take from that y, again, ##\tan(y)## i will get something that has nothing in common with the original x.

A function must be 1-1 to have an inverse. Normally, by restricting the domain of a function, you can make it 1-1 on the restricted domain. Like ##\tan(x)## on ##(-\pi/2, + \pi/2)##.

I don't think you can say that a function and its inverse have nothing in common. They are very closely related.
 
Good, but what about my solution? is the rest (the beginning) O.K.?
 
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Karol said:
Good, but what about my solution? is the rest (the beginning) O.K.?

Your solution is correct,
 
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Thank you PeroK and Math_QED
 

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