Proving that a subgroup is normal.

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The discussion revolves around proving that a subgroup H of GL_2(Z_3) is normal. The subgroup H consists of specific 2x2 matrices with determinant 1 and trace 0, including the identity and negative identity elements.

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  • The original poster attempts to apply a theorem regarding normal subgroups and homomorphisms but expresses difficulty in showing that left and right cosets are equal. Some participants note that H is a subgroup of SL_2(Z_3) and inquire about the number of subgroups of a specific order within that group. Others suggest considering the characteristic nature of H within SL_2(Z_3) and the normality of SL_2(Z_3) within GL_2(Z_3) as part of their reasoning.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring various properties of the groups involved and questioning the necessary calculations and relationships between the groups. There is no explicit consensus yet, but several productive lines of inquiry have been initiated.

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Participants mention the need to calculate the orders of GL_2(Z_3) and SL_2(Z_3) to further their arguments. There is also a note that some participants have not yet studied SL_2(Z_3), which may affect their contributions.

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How can we prove that a subgroup H of Gl_2(Z_3) is normal?

These are the elements of H:

\begin{pmatrix}1&1\\1&2 \end{pmatrix}

\begin{pmatrix}1&2\\2&2 \end{pmatrix}

\begin{pmatrix}2&1\\1&1 \end{pmatrix}

\begin{pmatrix}2&2\\2&1 \end{pmatrix}

\begin{pmatrix} 1 & 0 \\0 & 1 \end{pmatrix}

\begin{pmatrix} -1 & 0 \\0 & -1 \end{pmatrix}

\begin{pmatrix} 0 & 2 \\1& 0 \end{pmatrix}

\begin{pmatrix} 0 & 1 \\2 & 0 \end{pmatrix}

So the determinant of the elements is 1 and the trace is zero...and H additionally contains the identity element and the -identity element.


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I don't think I can find the left and right cosets and show that they are equal, because there are too many elements in Gl_2(Z_3). There is a theorem in our textbook that states,

Let H be a subgroup of G. Then H is normal in G if and only if there is a group structure on the set G/H of left cosets of H with the property that the canonical map π : G → G/H is a homomorphism. If H is normal in G, then the group structure on G/H which makes π a homomorphism is unique: we must have gH · gH = ggH for all g, g ∈ G. Moreover, the kernel of π : G → G/H is H. Thus, a subgroup of G is normal if and only if it is the kernel of a homomorphism out of G.

So I'm trying to use this and show that f: Gl_2(Z_3) \rightarrow Gl_2(Z_3)/H is a homomorphism...but I'm stuck...

We know that f(a)f(b)=aHbH and that f(ab)=abH. But how can we show that aHbH=abH? Can anybody please give me a hint?

Thanks in advance
 
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All the elements of ##H## have determinant ##1##, so H is a subgroup of ##SL_2(Z_3)##. How many subgroups of order 8 does ##SL_2(Z_3)## have?
 
jbunniii said:
All the elements of ##H## have determinant ##1##, so H is a subgroup of ##SL_2(Z_3)##. How many subgroups of order 8 does ##SL_2(Z_3)## have?

Thanks, but I didn't read about SL_2(Z_3) yet.
 
##SL_2(Z_3)## is the subgroup of ##GL_2(Z_3)## consisting of the matrices with determinant 1. What I have in mind is to try the following argument: (1) ##H## is characteristic in ##SL_2(Z_3)##; (2) ##SL_2(Z_3)## is normal in ##GL_2(Z_3)##; (3) therefore...?

In order to make that argument, you need to know the orders of ##GL_2(Z_3)## and ##SL_2(Z_3)##. Can you calculate these?
 
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jbunniii said:
##SL_2(Z_3)## is the subgroup of ##GL_2(Z_3)## consisting of the matrices with determinant 1. What I have in mind is to try the following argument: (1) ##H## is characteristic in ##SL_2(Z_3)##; (2) ##SL_2(Z_3)## is normal in ##GL_2(Z_3)##; (3) therefore...?

In order to make that argument, you need to know the orders of ##GL_2(Z_3)## and ##SL_2(Z_3)##. Can you calculate these?

Alright, thanks :smile:
 

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