Proving the Equivalence of Power Sets: A Challenge in Bijection

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The discussion revolves around proving the equivalence of the power set of positive integers, specifically the relationship between the set of functions from the positive integers to the power set of positive integers and the power set itself. The original poster is seeking a bijection to establish this equivalence.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss various approaches to establish a bijection, including referencing known equivalences and exploring the implications of cardinality. Questions arise regarding the mapping of subsets to functions and the validity of diagonal arguments in constructing sequences.

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The discussion is active, with participants sharing insights and attempting to build upon each other's contributions. Some participants express uncertainty about the diagonal argument's effectiveness in ensuring that every element of the power set corresponds to an element in the set of functions.

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There are references to previously established results regarding the cardinality of power sets and the nature of functions between sets. Participants are also considering the implications of these results in the context of the specific problem at hand.

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Hi

Here is the problem I am doing. Prove that

^{\mathbb{Z^+}}\mathcal{P}(\mathbb{Z^+})\sim \mathcal{P}(\mathbb{Z^+})

Where ^{\mathbb{Z^+}}\mathcal{P}(\mathbb{Z^+}) is the set of functions
from \mathbb{Z^+} to \mathcal{P}(\mathbb{Z^+}).

To prove this I will need to come up with some bijection from ^{\mathbb{Z^+}}\mathcal{P}(\mathbb{Z^+}) to \mathcal{P}(\mathbb{Z^+})

I am having hard time with this bijection. How do you map a subset of \mathbb{Z^+} to some function from \mathbb{Z^+} to
\mathcal{P}(\mathbb{Z^+})

I have been able to get some insight into the problem so far. I have proven that
\mathcal{P}(\mathbb{Z^+}) is uncountable. So it means that any function
from \mathbb{Z^+} to \mathcal{P}(\mathbb{Z^+}) can not be onto.

I would appreciate further insight to attack the problem.

thanks
 
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Maybe you can start by proving that

\mathcal{P}(\mathbb{Z}^+)\cong {}^{\mathbb{Z}^+}\{0,1\}
 
micromass

I have already proved that for any set A

\mathcal{P}(A)\sim \; ^{A}\{\mbox{ yes,no }\}

So putting yes=1 and no=0 and letting A= \mathbb{Z^+} , we get what you
are saying. I have also proved that for any sets A,B,C

^{(A\times B)}C\;\sim \; ^{A}( ^{B}C)

So how do things help me ?
 
Now it suffices to show

\mathbb{Z}^+\times \mathbb{Z}^+ \cong \mathbb{Z}^+
 
ok I think I got it

I have already shown that \mathbb{Z^+}\times \mathbb{Z^+}\;\sim\; \mathbb{Z^+}

Also I have shown previously that for any sets A,B,C,D if A\sim B and C\sim D then it follows that

^{A}C \;\sim \;^{B}D\cdots\;(1)

and

\mathcal{P}(A)\;\sim\;\mathcal{P}(B)

So it follows that

\mathcal{P}(\mathbb{Z^+})\;\sim\;\mathcal{P}( \mathbb{Z^+}\times \mathbb{Z^+})\cdots\;(2)

Since for any set A

\mathcal{P}(A)\;\sim\; ^{A}\{0,1\}

we have

\mathcal{P}(\mathbb{Z^+}\times \mathbb{Z^+})\;\sim\; ^{(\mathbb{Z^+}\times \mathbb{Z^+} )} \{0,1\} \cdots\;(3)

But for any sets A,B,C we have

^{(A\times B)}C\;\sim\; ^{A}( ^{B}C)

So we have

^{(\mathbb{Z^+}\times \mathbb{Z^+} )} \{0,1\}\;\sim\; ^{\mathbb{Z^+}}(^{\mathbb{Z^+}} \{0,1\} )\cdots\;(4)

so using equations 2, 3 and 4 ,due to transitivity of \sim we can say that

\mathcal{P}(\mathbb{Z^+})\;\sim\; ^{\mathbb{Z^+}}(^{\mathbb{Z^+}} \{0,1\} )<br /> \cdots\;(5)

Now

\mathbb{Z^+}\;\sim \mathbb{Z^+}

and

\mathcal{P}(\mathbb{Z^+})\;\sim\; ^{\mathbb{Z^+}}\{0,1\}

It follows from 1 that

^{\mathbb{Z^+}}\mathcal{P}(\mathbb{Z^+})\;\sim\; ^{\mathbb{Z^+}}(^{\mathbb{Z^+}} \{0,1\} )

Now using 5 , we can say that


^{\mathbb{Z^+}}\mathcal{P}(\mathbb{Z^+})\;\sim\; \mathcal{P}(\mathbb{Z^+})

thanks micromass, that was a lot of typing :cry:

I was thinking of coming up with some bijection. I think that's probably lot more difficult
in this case.
 
By the way I was wondering, if any bijection could be found between
^{\mathbb{Z^+}}\mathcal{P}(\mathbb{Z^+}) and \mathcal{P}(\mathbb{Z^+}) ?
 
Yes, I think so. Notice that every element of \mathcal{P}(\mathbb{Z}^+) is determined by a sequence of 0 and 1 (where 1 means that the corresponding element is in the subset). For example, the subset

\{1,4,5,10\} is

1,0,0,1,1,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,...

Now, given an element of {}^{\mathbb{Z}^+}\mathcal{P}(\mathbb{Z}^+). Such an element is a countable list of sequences. So such an element is given by

x_{1,1},x_{1,2},x_{1,3},x_{1,4},x_{1,5},...
x_{2,1},x_{2,2},x_{2,3},x_{2,4},x_{2,5},...
x_{3,1},x_{3,2},x_{3,3},x_{3,4},x_{3,5},...
x_{4,1},x_{4,2},x_{4,3},x_{4,4},x_{4,5},...
x_{5,1},x_{5,2},x_{5,3},x_{5,4},x_{5,5},...

We wish to make an element of \mathcal{P}(\mathbb{Z}^+) of that. So we wish to make one sequence of it. This is possible by following the diagonals. So an associated sequence would be

x_{1,1},x_{1,2},x_{2,1},x_{1,3},x_{2,2},x_{3,1},...
 
Micromass, but how do we make sure that every element of \mathcal{P}(\mathbb{Z}^+) has an element associated in {}^{\mathbb{Z}^+}\mathcal{P}(\mathbb{Z}^+) ?

For example consider \{1\} \in \mathcal{P}(\mathbb{Z}^+) . How does your
diagonal argument work here ?
 

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