Proving the Euler Phi Equation Divisible by 2

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The discussion revolves around proving that the Euler phi function is divisible by 2 for integers n greater than 2. Participants are exploring the properties of coprime numbers and their relationships within the context of the phi function.

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  • Participants discuss the necessity of generating groups and the implications of coprimality, particularly questioning the relationship between a and n-a. There is an exploration of whether pairs of coprime numbers can be established and how this relates to the proof of divisibility by 2.

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Some participants have provided insights into the nature of coprime pairs and the implications for the Euler phi function, while others are still seeking clarity on specific definitions and their applications. The discussion is ongoing, with various interpretations being explored.

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Participants are navigating definitions and properties of the Euler phi function, particularly in relation to prime numbers and their products. There is an emphasis on understanding the parity of the resulting values from the phi function.

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Prove that the Euler phi equation is always divisible by 2. If n > 2.?
I don't understand how this proof works:

I think I need to show that the inverse of a and a are both generated by the same group. Therefore, there are at least 2 elements that generate all other elements in the group. I'm stumped.

Please give a thorough explanation of steps.
 
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You don't need to generate any groups. Just look at the definition of the phi function. If a is coprime to n, what about n-a?
 


Dick said:
You don't need to generate any groups. Just look at the definition of the phi function. If a is coprime to n, what about n-a?

Yes, this statement works. But I don't understand what it means by gcd(a,n-a)=1 is also coprime...does this show that there are two numbers within the same set of number that are coprime,..?
 


math_nerd said:
Yes, this statement works. But I don't understand what it means by gcd(a,n-a)=1 is also coprime...does this show that there are two numbers within the same set of number that are coprime,..?

n-a doesn't have to be coprime to a. It's coprime to n if a is. The point is that coprimes to n come in pairs.
 


I see. Once I show that coprimes come in pairs, the Euler phi function for n>2:

a = n-a
So 2a = n
a = n/2
Which shows that two numbers are coprime to n. But does this adequately prove that this holds for n>2?
 
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If p is a prime > 2, then φ(p) = p-1. Since p > 2, p is odd, and p-1 is even, thus φ(p) is divisible by 2.

Now supposing n is the product of some prime powers p1 through pr with exponents k1 through kr, you should be aware that [itex]\varphi(n)=(p_1-1)p_1^{k_1-1} \times (p_2-1)p_2^{k_2-1} \cdots \times(p_r-1)p_r^{k_r-1}[/itex]. What can you say about the parity of this number?
 
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