Proving the Existence of a Single Real Root Using Derivatives

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The discussion revolves around proving the existence of a single real root for the function ##−6 x^3−3x−2 \cos x## by analyzing its derivative. Participants are exploring the implications of the function's behavior based on its derivative and the characteristics of trigonometric functions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the derivative of the function and its implications for the number of real roots. Questions arise regarding the correctness of the derivative and the nature of the original function, particularly in relation to the presence of the cosine term. There is also inquiry into how the sine function's oscillation affects the inequalities presented.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants questioning the validity of the derivative and the classification of the function. Some guidance has been offered regarding the implications of the derivative for the number of roots, but there is no explicit consensus on the correctness of the initial claims or the nature of the function.

Contextual Notes

Participants are grappling with the definitions and properties of polynomial functions versus trigonometric functions, as well as the implications of these properties for determining the number of roots. There is a recognition that the original problem is part of a larger context involving cubic functions and their roots.

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Homework Statement


the original function is ##−6 x^3−3x−2 cosx##

##f′(x)=−2x^2−3+2sin(x)##
##−2x^2 ≤ 0## for all x
and ##−3+2 sin(x) ≤ −3+2 = −1##, for all x
⇒ f′(x) ≤ −1 < 0 for all x

The Attempt at a Solution



this problem is part of a larger problem which says
there is a cubic function which can have at least one real roots
than we prove (like the above) that the derivative is negative and therefore the function is strictly decreasing (so it cannot intersect the x-axis again to have another root coz it cannot increase)
therefore it has exactly one real root (not three)

my problem is how they proved that ##-3+2 sin(x)## is -1
how is the sin(x) value +1
does it not oscillate b/w -1 and 1?
 
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The derivative is not correct, and the original function is not a cubic function due to the cosine.

REVIANNA said:
how is the sin(x) value +1
does it not oscillate b/w -1 and 1?
It does oscillate, but a smaller sine value makes the inequality even stronger.
That's why the two parts are connected via ##\leq## and not =.
 
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mfb said:
cubic function due to the cosine.
yeah the derivative is wrong x^2 has a coefficient -18
and the inequality is correct (I was not paying attention)
does cosine(and trig fns) also change the degree? I thought that only the highest power of x indicated the degree
 
Cosine and sine are not powers of their argument, the function is not a polynomial function of any degree.
 
mfb said:
the function is not a polynomial function of any degree.
So,How do you think about the max no of roots for the function?
 
It has at most one root, as shown in the first post. The proof via the derivative works for all functions with a derivative, they don't have to be polynomial functions.
 
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