Proving the Existence of a Solution for f(x)=c in a Continuous Function in [a,b]

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The problem involves proving the existence of a value "c" in the open interval (a,b) such that f(c)=c for a continuous function f(x) defined on the closed interval [a,b], where f(a)=b and f(b)=a. The discussion centers around the implications of continuity and the behavior of the function within the specified interval.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the concept of continuity and its implications for the function f(x). There is a suggestion to consider the function g(x)=f(x)-x, which leads to discussions about its relevance to the original problem. Questions arise regarding the necessity of proving that f(c)=c and the relationship between the intersections of f(x) and the line y=x.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing hints and suggestions without reaching a consensus. Some participants are questioning the relevance of the function g(x) and its connection to the original problem, while others are exploring the implications of the intermediate value theorem and the intersections of the graphs.

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There is a noted uncertainty about the assumptions being made regarding the function f(x) and its continuity, as well as the specific conditions under which the problem is being analyzed. Participants are encouraged to think critically about the relationships between the values of a, b, and the function f.

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Homework Statement


If f(x) be a "continuous" function in interval [a,b] such that f(a)=b and f(b)=a, then prove that there exists at least one value "c" in interval (a,b) such that f(c)=c.

Note: [a,b] denotes closed interval from a to b that is a and b inclusive. (a,b) denotes open interval from a to b that is excluding a and b.

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Concept of continuity.

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As function f(x) is continuous in [a,b] so graph of f(x) between x=a and x=b will be without any "break" and it covers value f(x) from a to b as well. Now as c lies between a and b i.e. a<c<b and f(b)=a and f(a)=b so there should be at least one solution of the equation f(x)=c. But how can we say that solution of equation f(x)=c is x=c ? How can I prove it ?

Please help !

Thanks in advanced... :)

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Consider the function ##g(x)=f(x)-x## on the interval ##[a,b]##.
 
Why this function ? Question does not say it. Ummmm...

(Thanks for quick reply)
 
It's just a suggestion/hint. Note that ##f(c)=c## iff ##g(c)=0##.
 
Please help me if i misunderstood. Question is asking us about f(x). What has g(x) to do with it and how will it answer the OP. And why we took g(x)=f(x)-x ? I do notice what you're saying though.
 
If I were to say much more, it would become less of a hint and more of me telling you how to do the problem.

Also, the suggestion was that you consider the function ##g##. I made you aware of it and implied that it was maybe pertinent to answering the problem. Now your job is to sit down and think about it for a bit. Maybe write down all of the facts that you can deduce about ##g## given what you know about ##f## and the relationship between ##a## and ##b##.
 
I do know that between x=a to x=b the graph y=x intersect the curve f(x) at at least one point. At that coordinate is (x,x). But what i am not getting is that how is x=c necessarily at least at one point ?

I have roughly sketched the figure.
 
Are you allowed to call on the intermediate value theorem?
 
sankalpmittal said:
I do know that between x=a to x=b the graph y=x intersect the curve f(x) at at least one point. At that coordinate is (x,x). But what i am not getting is that how is x=c necessarily at least at one point ?

I have roughly sketched the figure.

You say "
sankalpmittal said:
I do know that between x=a to x=b the graph y=x intersect the curve f(x) at at least one point. At that coordinate is (x,x). But what i am not getting is that how is x=c necessarily at least at one point ?

I have roughly sketched the figure.

You say "I do know that between x=a to x=b the graph y=x intersect the curve f(x) at at least one point." How do you know that? That is exactly what you are trying to prove!
 

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