Proving the Existence of a Supremum in a Compact Subset of R^n

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The discussion centers on proving the existence of a supremum in a compact subset of R^k, specifically showing that for a compact nonempty set E, there exist points x_0 and y_0 such that the distance d(x_0, y_0) equals the supremum Δ = sup{d(x,y) | x,y ∈ E}. Key concepts include the continuity of the distance function d, the properties of compact sets, and the application of the Heine-Borel Theorem. Participants emphasize the importance of using topological results and the sequential compactness of E to establish the desired proof.

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I am struggling to prove the following: Let E be a compact nonempty subset of R^k and let delta = {d(x,y): x,y in E}. Show E contains points x_0,y_0 such that d(x_0,y_0)=delta.
 
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bxn4 said:
I am struggling to prove the following: Let E be a compact nonempty subset of R^k and let delta = {d(x,y): x,y in E}. Show E contains points x_0,y_0 such that d(x_0,y_0)=delta.

Am I correct to guess that you meant the supremum

<br /> \Delta := \sup\{d(x,y)\;|\;x,y\in E\}\; ?<br />

It is convenient to consider a function d:E\times E\to\mathbb{R}, and use some basic topological results, or their immediate consequences. For example: The Cartesian product of compact sets is a compact set. In metric spaces compact sets are sequentially compact. The distance function d is continuous. Continuous mappings map compact sets into compact sets. The Heine-Borel Theorem. Just put pieces together!
 
jostpuur said:
Am I correct to guess that you meant the supremum

<br /> \Delta := \sup\{d(x,y)\;|\;x,y\in E\}\; ?<br />

It is convenient to consider a function d:E\times E\to\mathbb{R}, and use some basic topological results, or their immediate consequences. For example: The Cartesian product of compact sets is a compact set. In metric spaces compact sets are sequentially compact. The distance function d is continuous. Continuous mappings map compact sets into compact sets. The Heine-Borel Theorem. Just put pieces together!

Yes, it is the supremum. I am using the fact that E is compact to show that there is a subsequence that converges in E. Then I'd want to say that the limit of d(x_n_j, y_n_j) is
\Delta but not sure how to show it. We have not talked about continuous functions. We have only studied sequences so far.

thanks
 

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