Proving the Fibonacci Sequence Using Induction

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The discussion revolves around proving a relationship involving Fibonacci numbers, specifically the equation F_{1}+F_{3}+F_{2n-1}=F_{2n}. Participants are exploring the validity and implications of this statement within the context of mathematical induction.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants are attempting to clarify the initial problem statement and its components, particularly the roles of F_1 and F_3. There is discussion about modifying the induction hypothesis and plugging in specific values to test the relationship. Some participants question the definitions and assumptions regarding Fibonacci numbers.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants actively engaging in clarifying the problem and exploring different interpretations. Some have provided insights into the properties of Fibonacci numbers, while others express confusion regarding the formulation of the problem.

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There are indications that the problem statement may not be fully clear or properly defined, leading to questions about the definitions of the Fibonacci numbers involved and the validity of the proposed equation.

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Homework Statement


[tex]F_{1}+F_{3}+F_{2n-1}[/tex]=[tex]F_{2n}[/tex]

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The Attempt at a Solution


P(k+1):[tex]F_{2k-1}+F_{2k+1}[/tex]=[tex]F_{2k+2}[/tex]
 
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What happened to F_1 and F_3?
 
mutton said:
What happened to F_1 and F_3?

well, it's F_1+F_3+...+F_2n-1
 
Then P(k + 1) needs to be changed accordingly.

What have you tried so far?
 
I've tried plugging in numbers.
 
And how did that work out?

The definition of Fibonacci numbers will be helpful in the induction proof.
 
If I plug in 1, I just get F_1, so 1=1
If I plug in 2, I get F_3, so 1+2=F_4, 3=3
 
kathrynag said:
well, it's F_1+F_3+...+F_2n-1

F-1+F-3+...+F_2k-1+F_2k+1
P(k)+F_2k+1
F_2k+F_2k+1

Now I'm stumped...
 
kathrynag said:

Homework Statement


[tex]F_{1}+F_{3}+F_{2n-1}[/tex]=[tex]F_{2n}[/tex]

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


P(k+1):[tex]F_{2k-1}+F_{2k+1}[/tex]=[tex]F_{2k+2}[/tex]

kathrynag said:
well, it's F_1+F_3+...+F_2n-1
What was "F_1+ F_3+ ...+ F_2n-1"?

In your first post you said the problem was to prove that
[tex]F_{1}+F_{3}+F_{2n-1}[/tex]=[tex]F_{2n}[/tex]

Are you saying now it is actually to prove that
[tex]F_{1}+F_{3}+\cdot\cdot\cdot +F_{2n-1}[/tex]=[tex]F_{2n}[/tex]?
 
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kathrynag said:
F-1+F-3+...+F_2k-1+F_2k+1
P(k)+F_2k+1
F_2k+F_2k+1

Now I'm stumped...

Very close. What happens when 2 consecutive Fibonacci numbers are added?
 
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mutton said:
Very close. What happens when 2 consecutive Fibonacci numbers are added?

It equals the 3rd Fibonnacci number.
F_1+F-2=F_3

so F_2k+F_2k+1=F_2k+1+1
 
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And that's exactly what you wanted to show.
 
  • #13
Ok thanks!
 
  • #14
Sorry but maybe the problem is not properly stated? Are the F defined to be Fibonacci numbers?

Then F2n = F2n-1 + F2n-2

So if you are then asking also that

F2n = F2n-1 + F1 + F3

then

F2n-2 = F1 + F3

which is not making much sense.
 

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