Proving the Infimum and Supremum: A Short Guide for Scientists

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This discussion focuses on proving the infimum and supremum of a set A using epsilon neighborhoods. The user successfully demonstrates that if b is the least upper bound (supremum) of A, then for any epsilon greater than zero, b - epsilon is in A while b + epsilon is not. The definitions of supremum and infimum are provided, clarifying that the supremum is the least upper bound and the infimum is the greatest lower bound. The user seeks confirmation on the validity of their proof approach and is advised to clarify their statements for accuracy.

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proof that b is the supremum of supA
proof that b is the Infimum of infA
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Hi,

I have problems with the proof for task a

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I started with the supremum first, but the proof for the infimum would go the same way. I used an epsilon neighborhood for the proof

I then argued as follows that for ##b- \epsilon## the following holds ##b- \epsilon < b## and ##b- \epsilon \in A## for ##b+ \epsilon## then ##b+ \epsilon > b## and thereby ##b+ \epsilon \notin A## holds.

By the fact that I can make the epsilon arbitrarily small and thereby the above properties still hold, b must be the smallest upper bound of A.

Would this be sufficient as a proof?
 
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Lambda96 said:
I then argued as follows that for ##b- \epsilon## the following holds ##b- \epsilon < b## and ##b- \epsilon \in A## for ##b+ \epsilon## then ##b+ \epsilon > b## and thereby ##b+ \epsilon \notin A## holds.
Break this up into several sentences that are more clear and carefully stated. You say that ##b - \epsilon## is in ##A## and not in ##A##. That can not be true.
 
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It seems you must have been given a definition of the sup, inf , in order to do the proof.
 
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Thanks for your help FactChecker and WWGD, in the script from my professor it says the following.

##\textbf{supremum}##
An element ##c \in F## is called least upper bound or supremum of A, denoted by ##\text{sup}##A, if the following properties are satisfied.

i) ##a \le c## for all ##a \in A##.
ii) If b is an upper bound of A, then ##c \le b## follows.##\textbf{infimum}##
An element ##c \in F## is called greatest lower bound or infimum of A, denoted by ##\text{inf}##A, if the following properties are satisfied:

i)##a \ge c## for all ##a \in A##.
ii)If b is a lower bound of A, then ##c \ge b## follows.
 
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