Proving the Polynomial Identity for Dividing a^n-b^n by a-b

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The discussion focuses on proving the polynomial identity for dividing \(a^n - b^n\) by \(a - b\). Participants explore various methods of proof, including mathematical induction and polynomial division, while considering the efficiency of different approaches.

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  • Some participants suggest dividing \(a^n - b^n\) by \(a - b\) and showing that the product of \((a - b)\) and the summation equals \(a^n - b^n\).
  • Others propose using mathematical induction as a method to prove the identity, with a participant outlining the steps for induction.
  • A participant provides a transformation of the expression involving division by \(b^n\) to illustrate a different approach.
  • Concerns are raised about identifying the correct terms to multiply with \(a^j - b^j\) to derive \(a^{j+1} - b^{j+1}\) during the induction process.

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Participants express differing opinions on the best method to prove the identity, with some favoring induction while others question the efficiency of their proposed methods. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the most effective approach.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the method of proof, and there are indications of uncertainty regarding the steps in the induction process.

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$n\in\mathbb{N}$, prove
$$
a^n-b^n = (a-b)\sum\limits_{k = 0}^{n-1}a^kb^{n-k-1}.
$$

To show this is it best to just divide $a^n-b^n$ by $a-b$, show that polynomial is the summation, and then show that $(a-b)$ times the sum is $a^n-b^n$?

Or is there a more efficient method?
 
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dwsmith said:
$n\in\mathbb{N}$, prove
$$
a^n-b^n = (a-b)\sum\limits_{k = 0}^{n-1}a^kb^{n-k-1}.
$$

To show this is it best to just divide $a^n-b^n$ by $a-b$, show that polynomial is the summation, and then show that $(a-b)$ times the sum is $a^n-b^n$?

Or is there a more efficient method?

Hi dwsmith, :)

You can use Mathematical induction for this one. :)

Kind Regards,
Sudharaka.
 
dwsmith said:
$n\in\mathbb{N}$, prove
$$
a^n-b^n = (a-b)\sum\limits_{k = 0}^{n-1}a^kb^{n-k-1}.
$$

To show this is it best to just divide $a^n-b^n$ by $a-b$, show that polynomial is the summation, and then show that $(a-b)$ times the sum is $a^n-b^n$?

Or is there a more efficient method?

\[\begin{aligned}\frac{(a-b)\sum\limits_{k = 0}^{n-1}a^kb^{n-k-1}}{b^n}\ & = (a/b-1)\sum\limits_{k = 0}^{n-1}(a/b)^k \\ &= (a/b)^n-1\end{aligned}\]

CB
 
So doing this via induction.

Let $p(n): a^n-b^n = (a-b)\sum\limits_{k=0}^{n-1}a^kb^{n-1-k}$
Then p(1) is true.
Assume p(n) is true for a fixed but arbitrary $j\leq n$.

$$
p(j): a^j-b^j=(a-b)\sum\limits_{k=0}^{j-1}a^kb^{j-1-k}
$$

So the problem I am having is what is multiplied to $a^j-b^j$ to get $a^{j+1}-b^{j+1}$.

$(a^j-b^j)(a+\ldots +b)$ I can't figure out some of the other terms in the middle though.
 
dwsmith said:
So doing this via induction.

Let $p(n): a^n-b^n = (a-b)\sum\limits_{k=0}^{n-1}a^kb^{n-1-k}$
Then p(1) is true.
Assume p(n) is true for a fixed but arbitrary $j\leq n$.

$$
p(j): a^j-b^j=(a-b)\sum\limits_{k=0}^{j-1}a^kb^{j-1-k}
$$

So the problem I am having is what is multiplied to $a^j-b^j$ to get $a^{j+1}-b^{j+1}$.

$(a^j-b^j)(a+\ldots +b)$ I can't figure out some of the other terms in the middle though.

Clearly the statement is true for \(n=1\). Let us assume that the statement is true for \(n=p\in\mathbb{Z}^{+}\). Then,

\[a^p-b^p = (a-b)\sum_{k=0}^{p-1}a^k b^{p-1-k}\]

\[\Rightarrow \sum_{k=0}^{p-1}a^k b^{p-1-k}=\frac{a^p-b^p}{a-b}\]

Now consider the case when \(n=p+1\). That is, \(\displaystyle\sum_{k=0}^{p}a^k b^{p-k}\).

\begin{eqnarray}

\sum_{k=0}^{p}a^k b^{p-k}&=&a^p+\sum_{k=0}^{p-1}a^k b^{p-k}\\

&=&a^p+b\sum_{k=0}^{p-1}a^k b^{p-k-1}\\

&=&a^p+\frac{b(a^p-b^p)}{a-b}\\

&=&\frac{a^{p+1}-ba^p+ba^p-b^{p+1}}{a-b}\\

&=&\frac{a^{p+1}-b^{p+1}}{a-b}\\

\therefore (a-b)\sum_{k=0}^{p}a^k b^{p-k}=a^{p+1}-b^{p+1}

\end{eqnarray}

Therefore by mathematical induction we have,

\[a^n-b^n = (a-b)\sum\limits_{k = 0}^{n-1}a^kb^{n-k-1}\mbox{ for }n\in\mathbb{Z}^{+}\]

Kind Regards,
Sudharaka.
 

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