Proving Vector Space of 3-Tuples Fulfilling 3x1 - x2 + 5x3 = 0

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around proving that the collection of ordered 3-tuples (x1, x2, x3) satisfying the equation 3x1 - x2 + 5x3 = 0 forms a vector space under the usual operations of R³.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the necessity of demonstrating closure under addition and scalar multiplication, as well as the requirement to show all 10 vector space axioms. Some question whether proving closure alone is sufficient.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the requirements for proving the set forms a vector space, with some participants suggesting that closure may be the key focus. Guidance has been offered regarding the implications of being a subspace of R³ and the relevance of certain axioms.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the constraints of the problem, including the specific equation that defines the collection of tuples and the implications of vector space properties. There is an acknowledgment of the need for clarity on which axioms must be satisfied.

alexngo
Messages
4
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement


show that the collection of all ordered 3-tupples (x1,x2,x3) whose components satisfy 3x1 - x2 + 5x3 = 0 forms a vector space with the respect the usual operation of R3.


Homework Equations


3x1 - x2 + 5x3


The Attempt at a Solution


we tried it by addition and multipication..solutions would be appreciated asap
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Welcome to PF!

Hi alexngo! Welcome to PF! :wink:
alexngo said:
we tried it by addition and multipication..

ok! … show us what you get! :smile:
 
by showing that it respects both addition and multiplication does this proves it to be a vector space or we need to show taht it satisfies all 10 axioms
 
Technically you need to show all 10 of them. But note that, if your set is a vector space, then it is a subspace of R^3. In simpler terms: the "vectors" from your vector space are just vectors as you know them. So the axioms about distributivity and associativity carry over to the subspace (for example: if the addition of three arbitrary 3-d vectors is associative, then the addition of three special ones of the form (x, y, (y-3x)/5) is definitely associative as well). In fact there is a reduced set of axioms which you can use to show that a subset of a vector space is a vector space.
 
alexngo said:
by showing that it respects both addition and multiplication does this proves it to be a vector space or we need to show taht it satisfies all 10 axioms

You only need the closure axioms …

you don't need to prove eg a + b = b + a because so long as you've proved closure, ie that b + a is in the collection, then a + b = b + a is automatically satisfied.

But of course, you do still need to prove closure under multiplication by a scalar. :wink:

EDIT: oooh, CompuChip :smile: beat me to it! :biggrin:
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
3K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
2K
  • · Replies 15 ·
Replies
15
Views
2K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
4K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
3K
Replies
2
Views
3K
  • · Replies 16 ·
Replies
16
Views
5K