System of equations: finding a plane

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The discussion revolves around solving a system of equations related to finding a plane in a four-dimensional space. Participants are exploring the relationships between the variables defined by the equations.

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  • Participants discuss their attempts to solve the system and express confusion about the relationships between the variables. Some question the validity of proposed solutions and seek clarification on how to derive specific vector forms from the equations.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and corrections to each other's reasoning. There is a recognition of the need to clarify how certain vector forms relate to the solutions of the equations, and some participants express relief at finding straightforward explanations.

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Homework Statement


Solve the following system of equations:

2x1 - 2x2 -3x3 = -2
3x1 -3x2 -2x3 + 5x4 = 7
x1 - x2 -2x3 -x4 = -3


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Ok so I solved the system and got:

x1 -x2 = 5
x3 = 4
x4 = 0

so I've got a point (5,0,4,0) but the answer is r(1,1,0,0) + s(-3,0,-2,1) + (5,0,4,0)

How do I get the other vectors?
 
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Catchfire said:
Ok so I solved the system and got:

x1 -x2 = 5
x3 = 4
x4 = 0

how? :confused:
 
x1= 5, x2= 0 is one pair of numbers that satisfy x1- x2= 5.

However, your "solution" is wrong. For example, x1= 2, x2= 0, x3= 2, x4= 1 satisfy the initial equation but none of x1- x2= 5, x3= 4, or x4= 0 are satisfied.
 
2x1 - 2x2 -3x3 = -2
3x1 -3x2 -2x3 + 5x4 = 7
x1 - x2 -2x3 -x4 = -3

x1 - x2 -2x3 -x4 = -3
4x3 + 8x4 = 16
x3 + 2x4= 4

x1 - x2 -2x3 -x4 = -3
x3 + 2x4 = 4

x1 - x2 +3x4 = 5
x3 + 2x4 = 4

x1 = x2 - 3x4 + 5
x3 = -2x4 + 4

Looks like I missed adding the bolded term. This is correct now I hope.
 
How do I find r(1,1,0,0) and s(-3,0,-2,1)?
 
Catchfire said:
2x1 - 2x2 -3x3 = -2
3x1 -3x2 -2x3 + 5x4 = 7
x1 - x2 -2x3 -x4 = -3

x1 - x2 -2x3 -x4 = -3
4x3 + 8x4 = 16
x3 + 2x4= 4

not following that :confused:
 
Yes, that is correct. And now you are saying that any (x1, x2, x3, x4) satisfying those four equations can be written as (x1, x2, x3, x4)= (x2- 3x4+ 5, x2, -2x4+ 4, x4)= (x2, x2, 0, 0)+ (-3x4, 0, -2x4, x4)+ (5, 0, 4, 0)= x2(1, 1, 0, 0)+ x4(-3, 0, -2, 1)+ (5, 0, 4, 0).
 
AHHH thank you so much, I was pulling my hair out over here. I knew it had to be something pretty straight forward.
 

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