Proving {x^2} & {-n} do not converge.

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The problem involves proving that the sequences {n^2} and {-n} do not converge. The discussion centers around the definitions and properties of convergence and divergence in the context of sequences.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mixed

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  • Participants explore the implications of convergence and divergence, questioning the application of definitions and suggesting the use of specific values for epsilon to derive contradictions. There is also discussion about the conditions under which a sequence can be considered divergent.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants offering various perspectives on how to approach the proof. Some guidance has been provided regarding the definitions of divergence, and there is an exploration of different interpretations of the sequences in question.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of potential confusion regarding the definitions of divergence, particularly distinguishing between different types of divergence (e.g., divergence to infinity versus general divergence).

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Homework Statement



Prove the sequences [tex]\left\{ n^{2} \right} _{n \in N}[/tex] and [tex]\left{ -n \right}_{n \in N}[/tex] do not converge.

Homework Equations



lim n^2 = a
lim -n = b

The Attempt at a Solution



If n^2 converges, then for all epsilon > 0, there is an N s.t. |n^2 - a| < epsilon for all n > N.

If -n converges, then for all epsilon > 0, there is an N s.t. |-n - b| < epsilon for all n > N.

I assume I could use the triangle inequality possibly.
 
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Why not just pick some concrete value for [itex]\varepsilon[/itex] (say, 1) and derive a contradiction?
 
If a sequence diverges then there is an M>0 thuch that when [tex]n>N[/tex] then [tex]|a_{n}|\geqslant M[/tex]. Can you do this for the sequences you have?
 
hunt_mat said:
If a sequence diverges then there is an M>0 thuch that when [tex]n>N[/tex] then [tex]|a_{n}|\geqslant M[/tex]. Can you do this for the sequences you have?
Be carful. In general a sequence "diverges" as long as it does not converge. That is very different from "diverges to infinity" or "diverges to negative infinity". The sequence 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, ..., diverges but does NOT satify the condition you give.
 
But in the context here the definition of diverges to infinity is the correct one to use.
 

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