Undergrad Pseudo-Riemaniann isometries

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The discussion centers on the symmetries of pseudo-Riemannian manifolds, specifically regarding the definition of isotropy at a point. It highlights that the set of Killing Vector Fields (KVFs) forms a Lie algebra, which is crucial for understanding isometries in the context of these manifolds. The definition of isotropy, derived from J. Lee and S. Carroll, suggests that isotropy may apply more appropriately to spacelike hypersurfaces rather than the entire spacetime manifold. The conversation also notes that different authors may have varying conventions regarding isotropy in pseudo-Riemannian geometry. Ultimately, the isotropy condition involves the behavior of isometries and their pushforwards in relation to tangent vectors at a point.
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About the isometries of pseudo-riemannian manifolds and the definition of manifold isotropic around a point
I'd ask for clarification about the symmetries of (pseudo) Riemannian manifold ##M## of dimension ##n##.

The set of smooth vector fields ##\Gamma(TM)## forms a vector space over ##\mathbb R##; the commutator defined as $$[X,Y](f):=X(Y(f)) - Y(X(f))$$ turns it into a (infinite dimensional) Lie algebra.

Consider the set of continuous isometries, i.e. the flows of Killing Vector Fields w.r.t. the tensor metric ##g##. KVFs form a linear subspace of ##\Gamma (TM)## that closes w.r.t. the commutator, i.e. it is a Lie algebra on its own. As far as I can tell, this linear subspace/Lie algebra over ##\mathbb R## has always finite dimension ##m \geq n##.

That said, consider for instance the case of spherically symmetric Lorentzian metric. It has a specific Lie algebra of rotational KVFs. The latter should be a linear subspace/Lie algebra of the Lie algebra of all KVFs.

Now the question: does the definition of isotropy around a point apply to the entire spacetime as manifold or to its spacelike submanifolds ?

I took as definition of isotropy around a point the one from J. Lee - Introduction to Riemannian manifolds" chapter 3 - Symmetries of Riemannian Manifolds.
 
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Lee's definition of isotropic at a point is in the context of Riemannian Geometry where there isn't a time dimension typically per se so it applies to the entire tangent space at a point. Maybe other authors have different conventions in the context of pseudo-Riemannian geometry.
 
https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/4613275/are-3-dimensional-einstein-manifolds-isotropic has a definition of isotropic in the semi-riemannian case. Basically non-null tangent vectors at a point of the same length must have an isometry that maps one to the other.

This has some interesting cases. For instance a vector whose spatial components are greater than their time components would have to be map into a pure spatial vector with no time component. Locally these are basically the symmetries of the Lorentz group.
 
jbergman said:
Maybe other authors have different conventions in the context of pseudo-Riemannian geometry.
S .Carroll in his book "Spacetime and geometry" section 8.1 defines a manifold isotropic around a point ##p## if for any ##V,W \in T_pM## there exists an isometry ##\theta_p## in the subgroup of isometries that leave fixed ##p## and ##k \in \mathbb R## such that $$\theta_p^*(W)=kV$$ where ##\theta_p^*## is the pushforward associated to ##\theta_p## evaluated at ##p##.

I believe in this case the relevant manifold ##M## to which the notion of isotropy applies isn't the spacetime as whole but its spacelike hypersurfaces (which are Riemannian manifolds of their own).

jbergman said:
https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/4613275/are-3-dimensional-einstein-manifolds-isotropic has a definition of isotropic in the semi-riemannian case. Basically non-null tangent vectors at a point of the same length must have an isometry that maps one to the other.
In that link I believe the relevant condition isn't on the isometry ##\theta_p## fixing the point ##p## by itself, but on its associated pushforward ##\theta_p## at ##p##. It applies to the same type of non-null vectors in tangent space (i.e. either spacelike or timelike).
 
cianfa72 said:
S .Carroll in his book "Spacetime and geometry" section 8.1 defines a manifold isotropic around a point ##p## if for any ##V,W \in T_pM## there exists an isometry ##\theta_p## in the subgroup of isometries that leave fixed ##p## and ##k \in \mathbb R## such that $$\theta_p^*(W)=kV$$ where ##\theta_p^*## is the pushforward associated to ##\theta_p## evaluated at ##p##.

I believe in this case the relevant manifold ##M## to which the notion of isotropy applies isn't the spacetime as whole but its spacelike hypersurfaces (which are Riemannian manifolds of their own).
I glanced at Carroll and it appears that he is talking about a specific foliation of spacetime with the requirement that the submanifold spatial leaves are isotropic. However, he notes that a different non-comoving observer, i.e., a different foliation would not find their leaves also isotropic.
 

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