Pulley & Angle: Tension Calculation

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The discussion centers on calculating tension in a wire wrapped around a pulley when a force of 50 kN is applied. Participants clarify that the tension in the wire increases when the wire is bent at an angle A, contrary to the initial assumption that it decreases. The correct relationship is established as Tension = F * cos(A), indicating that the angle affects the tension force's components. Participants emphasize the importance of correctly applying trigonometric principles to resolve tension forces in pulley systems.

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Hello everybody

Im trying to calculate the tension in wire (se attached image). the wire is wrapped around a pulley and combined in the end at which you pull with 50 kN. As far as I understand, if youdon´t have this angle so that that the wire ends follow the red dotted line then one can just divide the pulling strength by a factor of 2. But how does this angle influence?

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decompose the tension force on the string into two components. One of the components ought to be parallel to the red line while the other component will be perpendicular
 
dauto said:
decompose the tension force on the string into two components. One of the components ought to be parallel to the red line while the other component will be perpendicular

If the wire is bend a certain angle A, then the tension in the wire would be F*cos(A)?, then this would make the tension in the wire smaller - I have done this experiment in real life and experienced a smaller force was nessecary in order to brake the wire compared to a normal pull in the wire.
Am I not understanding you rigth?
 
RorschachDK said:
If the wire is bend a certain angle A, then the tension in the wire would be F*cos(A)?, then this would make the tension in the wire smaller - I have done this experiment in real life and experienced a smaller force was nessecary in order to brake the wire compared to a normal pull in the wire.
Am I not understanding you rigth?

It's the other way around - the tension in the wire is greater not smaller when there's an angle. You may have multiplied somewhere when you should have divided? Show your work and someone here will spot the problem.
 

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