QED Confinement: Will Charge be Confined if Alpha is Larger?

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The discussion revolves around the implications of a larger fine structure constant (alpha) on charge confinement, drawing parallels to color confinement in Quantum Chromodynamics (QCD). Participants explore theoretical treatments of non-perturbative Quantum Electrodynamics (QED) and the relationship between coupling strength and confinement.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes that if alpha were larger, it could lead to charge confinement similar to color confinement in QCD, suggesting a mechanism involving electron-positron pairs.
  • This participant notes that their argument does not account for relativity or quantum field effects and seeks theoretical treatments of non-perturbative QED related to confinement.
  • Another participant challenges the conventional view on confinement, referencing work by V. N. Gribov and providing links to relevant lectures.
  • A later reply expresses gratitude for the references and requests clarification on the current conventional view of confinement.
  • In response, the second participant declines to provide a definitive answer, citing a lack of expertise in QCD and suggesting Wikipedia as a resource.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the nature of confinement in QED or the implications of a larger alpha. Multiple competing views remain regarding the relationship between coupling constants and confinement.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in understanding the conventional view of confinement and the complexities involved in relating QED and QCD, with unresolved aspects regarding the theoretical frameworks involved.

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What would happen if the fine structure constant alpha was larger?
Will charge be confined, as colour is in QCD?

A simple argument, based on non-relativistic quantum mechanics, is that the binding energy of an electron in a hidrogen atom is given by E= - 1/2 (alpha)² m_e c². If alpha=2, instead of alpha=1/137, one could produce a pair electron-positron, bind the electron to the proton, and put the positron faw away. This could be a mechanism to surround any free particle with electrons or positrons (or muons, taus ..).

Of course, this argument does not take into account relativity, or quantum field effects. So, my question is whether it is there some theoretical treatment of non-perturbative QED, hinting to the presence of confinement .

I guess that I would like to understand if confinement is something related to the strength of the coupling constant, or something associated to the non-abelian nature of theories such as QCD.


Thanks.
 
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carroza said:
What would happen if the fine structure constant alpha was larger?
Will charge be confined, as colour is in QCD?

A simple argument, based on non-relativistic quantum mechanics, is that the binding energy of an electron in a hidrogen atom is given by E= - 1/2 (alpha)² m_e c². If alpha=2, instead of alpha=1/137, one could produce a pair electron-positron, bind the electron to the proton, and put the positron faw away. This could be a mechanism to surround any free particle with electrons or positrons (or muons, taus ..).

Of course, this argument does not take into account relativity, or quantum field effects. So, my question is whether it is there some theoretical treatment of non-perturbative QED, hinting to the presence of confinement .

I guess that I would like to understand if confinement is something related to the strength of the coupling constant, or something associated to the non-abelian nature of theories such as QCD.


Thanks.

I don't think what you described is a conventional view on confinement. However, this approach was investigated a long time ago by V. N. Gribov. See his "Orsay lectures on confinement"
http://www.arxiv.org/abs/hep-ph/9403218
http://www.arxiv.org/abs/hep-ph/9403322
http://www.arxiv.org/abs/hep-ph/9905285

Eugene.
 
Thank you very much for the references, which were indeeed very useful.
Could you tell me which is the present conventional view of confinement?

Carroza
 
carroza said:
Thank you very much for the references, which were indeeed very useful.
Could you tell me which is the present conventional view of confinement?

No, I'm afraid not. I am not an expert in QCD and I don't want to mislead you. The best I can do is to direct you to Wikipedia.

Eugene.
 

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