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The discussion revolves around the time-independent Schrödinger equation in the momentum representation for a particle with mass m, specifically under a quadratic potential V(x) = (1/2) γ x². The original poster attempts to derive the energy eigenvalue and the parameter B from a proposed solution in momentum space.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore the transformation of the Schrödinger equation from position to momentum representation and discuss the implications of the proposed trial solution. Questions arise regarding the dependence of energy on momentum and how to eliminate this dependence to find a suitable value for B.

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Some participants have provided insights into rearranging the equation to isolate B and have suggested specific conditions under which the energy becomes independent of momentum. There appears to be a productive exchange of ideas, with some participants affirming the proposed approach.

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Participants are working under the constraints of deriving parameters from a trial solution while ensuring that the energy remains a constant value. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to clarify the relationships between the variables involved.

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Homework Statement



Write down the time independent Schrödinger eqn in the momentum representation for a particle with mass m when the potential is given by [itex]V(x) = \frac{1}{2} \gamma x^2[/itex]
Given that a possible solution is given by [itex]\Phi(p) = e^{\frac{-Bp^2}{2}}[/itex]

determine B and the corresponding energy eigenvalue.


Homework Equations



position / momentum

[itex]x \rightarrow i\hbar \frac{d}{dp}[/itex]
[itex]-i\hbar \frac{d}{dx} \rightarrow p[/itex]



The Attempt at a Solution



in position representation the full time independent Schrödinger eqn is:

[itex]- \frac{\hbar^2}{2m}\frac{d^2}{dx^2} \Psi(x) + \frac{1}{2}\gamma x^2 \Psi(x) = E\Psi(x)[/itex]

becomes

[itex]\frac{p^2}{2m}\Phi(p) - \frac{\hbar^2 \gamma}{2}\frac{d^2}{dp^2}\Phi(p) = E\Phi(p)[/itex]
in the momentum representation, where Phi is the FT of Psi.

After plugging in the Trial Solution I get:

[itex]E = \frac{p^2}{2m} - \frac{\hbar^2 \gamma}{2}\left( B^2 p^2 - B\right)[/itex]

Not sure what to do after this bit, I tried to normalise the wavefunction [itex]A = \left(\frac{B}{\pi}\right)^{\frac{1}{4}}[/itex]

But I don't think that helps.

Any ideas on where i could get a second equation to find B and E?

Thanks
 
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The energy E needs to be a constant, so it can't depend on p. For what value of B will the dependence of E on p vanish?
 
ok, the only way i can see of doing this is, first rearrange to get:

[itex]p^2 \left(\frac{1}{2m} - \frac{B^2 \hbar^2 \gamma}{2}\right) + \frac{B\hbar^2 \gamma}{2} = E[/itex]

choose B such that:

[itex]B^2 \frac{\hbar^2 \gamma}{2} = \frac{1}{2m}[/itex]

which gives:

[itex]B = \frac{1}{\hbar}\sqrt{\frac{1}{\gamma m}}[/itex]

So the energy eigenvalue would be:

[itex]\frac{\hbar}{2}\sqrt{\frac{\gamma}{m}}[/itex]
 
Looks good.
 
thanks very much
 

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