Quad Core vs Dual Core: Which is Better for a Physics Major's Laptop?

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The discussion revolves around the decision-making process for selecting a laptop suitable for a physics major, focusing on the comparison between dual core and quad core processors, as well as other factors such as portability, weight, and battery life. Participants explore various aspects of laptop performance relevant to academic needs, including processor specifications, software requirements, and practical usability.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests considering a dual core processor with a higher clock rate versus a quad core with a slower clock rate, weighing the cost and performance implications.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of budget and suggests that many physics departments provide computing facilities, potentially reducing the need for a high-end laptop.
  • Several participants highlight the significance of laptop weight and portability, arguing that a lighter laptop is more practical for students who need to carry it around frequently.
  • One participant argues that a quad core processor may not be necessary unless specific software utilizes it, suggesting that most applications do not require such processing power.
  • Another participant points out that factors like memory and disk speed have become more critical than processor speed in determining overall performance.
  • Discussion includes the importance of battery life, with recommendations for laptops that can last longer on a charge to accommodate student lifestyles.
  • One participant mentions the keyboard layout as an important consideration, sharing personal experiences with usability issues.
  • There are comments on hyperthreading, with mixed opinions on its effectiveness across different processor generations and applications.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions on the importance of processor type versus other factors like weight, battery life, and usability. There is no consensus on whether a quad core processor is necessary, and views on hyperthreading's utility vary significantly.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss various laptop specifications and their relevance to academic tasks, but there are unresolved assumptions about the specific software needs of physics majors and how those might influence processor choice.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for prospective physics majors or students in STEM fields considering laptop options, as well as those interested in the practical aspects of laptop performance versus specifications.

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As a soon to be physics major I am about to purchase a laptop. However, I can't decide what I want. Should I go for a laptop with a dual core processor with a higher clock rate or a quad core processor with a slower clock rate. The laptop with the quad core is a bit out of my price range but I am willing to stretch if it is worth it. What do you think?
 
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Stick to what suits your budget.
Any physics department will have some computing facilities available to students, so there should be no need to buy a high end laptop.

I would like to highlight that many students simply go for a laptop though it hardly leaves their desk at home, the point being, if you don't need a laptop, you can put the money into a decent desktop.

If you truly need the mobility, take the weight matter into consideration.
 
physiker_192 said:
If you truly need the mobility, take the weight matter into consideration.


I cannot agree with this one enough! When you have to carry that laptop and it's power cord around on your back all day, every day, in every kind of weather, along with all your books and notebooks and lunch and other assorted "crap," you will find that the computer that weighs the least, will be worth the most; because you will actually USE it! Don't pick a tablet for your only computer though, because a lot of web sites you might access during school assignments (i.e., Webassign, Mastering Chemistry, Mastering Physics, etc.) don't work well without Firefox (Seriously).

Pick the least expensive one (because you will have to replace it in a few years anyway) and the one that weighs the least. I currently have about 6 assorted computers, laptops, and tablets; the one I use the most is the Acer Netbook that cost about US $200.00. Other computers are good for gaming and stuff, but I even use the netbook for computer science classes - it runs absolutely everything!
 
A quad core is going to be a waste unless you have software that makes use of it which most software doesn't, or you are a power user and run a whole bunch of resource-hungry apps at the same time.
 
Processor speed is really no longer a useful factor when choosing a computer, particularly a laptop computer. As processors have gotten faster, other bottlenecks have become apparent. Memory and disk bandwidth are now more important specs than processor speed.

You'll find a computer with a solid-state disk to feel much faster than one with a hard drive, in every way. Programs and files will open more quickly, the computer will boot, wake and sleep faster. Your entire experience with the computer will be greatly improved.

Next up, consider portability. Look for a laptop that is lightweight, thin, and lasts a long time on a charge. You'll be carrying it around everywhere, you'll be out of your dorm room for long periods of time, and you'll find yourself in lots of buildings where many people are competing for a power plug. You'll really enjoy a laptop with great battery life.

I realize these are very utilitarian features -- thin, light, good battery life, and with a fast disk -- but utilitarian features and creature comforts are what will ultimately make you love or hate your laptop.

You'll run a few compute-intensive programs during your undergraduate education, but you'll probably never run anything that takes more than a minute or two to complete. Don't sweat it. :smile:

- Warren
 
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You guys forgot to mention the keyboard. My first laptop drove me nuts because the keys were too close together. I kept hitting the cAPLOCKS every time I hit the "A" button (see). And double typing letters etc. As far as the processor, any old i3 double core should do fine. Mine is an i3 hyperthreaded, so you get 4 virtual cores (there's a compromise for you:smile:) And they're cheap. If you find you need more than that, you should probably use the schools computers for those heavier problems. I personally use my desktop for any heavy cpu lifting projects, which has a lot more firepower. Then I'll just flip from the desktop to the laptop with a thumb drive. I imagine you could do the same. And the battery is important. Try to get with one over 4 hours of life on it. That way you can just grab and go without having to undo the cord and wind it up everyime, weather at home or out in public. The weight of the cord isn't the problem, it's the hassle. It may not seem like a big deal, but if you use your laptop a lot on the road, they add up.
 
DiracPool said:
Mine is an i3 hyperthreaded, so you get 4 virtual cores

By the way, those virtual cores do virtually nothing...

http://instantrimshot.com/
 
Hyperthread is only good for running programs that benefit from parallel processing. It's great for image processing, but, little else IRL.
 
IMHO hyperthreading changed in time. I see it working on my i7 now, it didn't work so nicely on my earlier single nor two core Intel processors.
 

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