Quadratic form and diagonalization

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The discussion revolves around the diagonalization of a quadratic form represented by Q(x,y) = 5x² + 2y² + 4xy. Participants are tasked with finding the diagonal shape of this quadratic form using eigenvalues and eigenvectors, and exploring the implications of these findings in relation to the geometric representation of the curve defined by the quadratic form.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of eigenvalues and eigenvectors of the associated symmetric matrix, and how these relate to the diagonalization process. Questions arise about the meaning of the diagonal shape and the implications of the eigenvalues in defining the curve Q(x,y) = λ1λ2.

Discussion Status

There is an active exploration of the relationship between the quadratic form and its diagonal representation. Some participants have confirmed the eigenvalues and eigenvectors, while others are questioning the geometric interpretation of these results and how they relate to the conic section represented by the quadratic form.

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Participants are navigating the constraints of the problem, including the requirement to express the quadratic form in a diagonalized matrix form and the implications of the eigenvalues on the shape of the curve. There is also mention of the need to verify certain mathematical properties, such as the orthogonality of the transformation matrix.

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Homework Statement


Find diagonal shape of next quadratic form ( using eigenvalues and eigenvectors)
Q(x,y)= 5x2 + 2y2 + 4xy.
What is curve { (x,y)∈ ℝ| Q(x,y)= λ1λ2, where λ1 and λ2 are eigenvalues of simetric matrix joined to quadratic form Q. Draw given curve in plane.

The Attempt at a Solution


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Matrix for given form is A= \begin{bmatrix} 5 & 2 \\ 2 & 2 \end{bmatrix}
k_{a}(\lambda )= det(\lambda I - A)= \begin{vmatrix} 5-\lambda & 2 \\ 2 & 2-\lambda \end{vmatrix}= \\(5-\lambda)(2-\lambda) - 4=0\\ \lambda_{1}=1\\ \lambda_{2}=6Spectre of A ={1,6}

For λ=1
\begin{bmatrix} 4 &2 \\ 2& 1 \end{bmatrix} \begin{bmatrix} x\\ y \end{bmatrix}
y=-2x\\ v(x,-2x) = x(1,-1)
(lets call it v1)

For λ=6
\begin{bmatrix} -1 &2 \\ 2& -4 \end{bmatrix} \begin{bmatrix} x\\ y \end{bmatrix}
y=\frac{1}{2}x\\ v=(x, \frac{1}{2}x)=x(1,\frac{1}{2})

lets call this on v2

Ok, now i need to find the norm of both vectors.
\mid \mid v_{1}\mid \mid=\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} (1,-1)
\mid \mid v_{2}\mid \mid =\frac{\sqrt{5}}{2} (1,\frac{1}{2})

Ok, so what am i supposed to do now?
 
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diracdelta said:
y=−2x
v
(x,−2x)=x(1,−1)
Check that step.
Regarding the diagonal form, you only need the eigenvalues, right?
What sort of curve should that equation produce?
 
Ups.
I can't edit first post, so I'll write it here

y=-2x\\v=(x,-2x)=(1,-2)
Since detA=5\cdot 2-2\cdot2=6 > 0\\ it is either elipse of set which contains only one dot or empty set. But it will be elipse.What does diagonal shape means? Ok, I got the eigenvalues, how do i make curve Q(x,y)=λ1λ2
 
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diracdelta said:
But it will be elipse.
What does diagonal shape means? Ok, I got the eigenvalues, how do i make curve Q(x,y)=λ1λ2
Yes, an ellipse.
I would think that 'diagonal shape' means either writing the matrix in the form ##P^{-1}DP## where the matrix D only has nonzero elements on its diagonal, or just the matrix D itself. That diagonal would consist of the eigenvalues. P consists of eigenvectors.
Not sure that there's anything special about having ##\lambda_1\lambda_2## as the value of Q, but I suspect I'm missing something there. Anyway, how do you think the eigenvectors relate to the geometrical features of the ellipse?
 
You have correctly found the eigenvalues to be 1 and 6. You have correctly found the corresponding eigenvectors to be \begin{bmatrix}1 \\ -2\end{bmatrix} and \begin{bmatrix}2 \\ 1 \end{bmatrix}. That means that you can write
\begin{bmatrix}\frac{1}{5} & -\frac{2}{5} \\ \frac{2}{5} & \frac{1}{5}\end{bmatrix}\begin{bmatrix}5 & 2 \\ 2 & 2 \end{bmatrix}\begin{bmatrix}1 & 2 \\ -2 & 1\end{bmatrix}= \begin{bmatrix}1 & 0 \\ 0 & 6\end{bmatrix}
The initial matrix is from the quadratic form 5x^2+ 2y^2+ 4xy. The resulting diagonal matrix means that, in a coordinate system having axes in the directions of those eigenvectors is x'^2+ 6y'^2. If the first quadratic form is equal to a constant, so is the second. What conic section is of the form x^2+ 6y^2= Constant?
 
Diagonalization of quadratic form
Simetric matrix A can diagonalize in some orthonormal basis f_{1},...f_{n} of ℝn so that
Af_{1}=\lambda f_{1},..., Af_{n}=\lambda f_{n}

For vector x=\eta _{1}\cdot f_{1}+,...,+\eta_{n}\cdot f_{n} written in that basis we have
Q_{A}(x)=(Ax|x)\\=(A(\eta _{1}\cdot f_{1}+...+\eta_{n} f_{n})|\eta _{1} f_{1}+...+\eta_{n} f_{n})\\=((\eta _{1}\lambda_{1}f_{1}+...+\eta_{n}\lambda_{n} f_{n})|\eta _{1}f_{1}+...+\eta_{n} f_{n})\\=\lambda_{1}\eta_{1}^{2}+ ... +\lambda_{n}\eta_{n}^{2}
so we say, quadratic form has been diagonalized in orthonormal basis of space ℝn

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Now, should i just multiply like above matrix (Av1|v1) or something else?
 
diracdelta said:
Now, should i just multiply like above matrix (Av1|v1) or something else?
I don't understand that question. For the diagonal form, you just have to write a matrix that has the eigenvalues on the diagonal and zeroes elsewhere, as I suggested in post #4.
In regards to the geometry of an ellipse, what do you think the eigenvales and eigenvectors might correspond to?
 
As haruspex noted in post 4, the matrix A is equal to ##A = P^{-1}DP## where
$$D = \begin{bmatrix} 1 & 0 \\ 0 & 6 \end{bmatrix}$$ and
$$P = \begin{bmatrix} \frac 1{\sqrt{5}} & \frac 2{\sqrt{5}} \\ -\frac 2{\sqrt{5}} & \frac 1{\sqrt{5}} \end{bmatrix}.$$ Note that because A is a real symmetric matrix, P is an orthogonal matrix. That is, the inverse of P is equal to the transpose of P. (You should verify this.)

Using ##A = P^{-1}DP##, you can write
$$Q(x,y) = 5x^2 + 2y^2 + 4xy = \begin{bmatrix} x & y \end{bmatrix}A\begin{bmatrix} x \\ y \end{bmatrix} = \begin{bmatrix} x & y \end{bmatrix}P^{-1}DP\begin{bmatrix} x \\ y \end{bmatrix}.$$
Now consider new coordinates defined by
$$\begin{bmatrix} x' \\ y' \end{bmatrix} = P\begin{bmatrix} x \\ y \end{bmatrix}.$$ What is Q written in terms of these new coordinates?
 
Av11v1
And Av22v2
While v1 and v2 are ||v1|| and |v2||

So Q(x) = 1* η12 + +6η22

η1=1*(ε1 - ε2)*(1/21/2
η2= 6*(ε1 - 1/2 ε2)*(51/2/2)

And Q(x) = λ1η12 + λ2η22
 
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