Quantum imaging with undetected photons

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of quantum imaging using undetected photons, as presented in a recent article. Participants explore the implications of imaging without direct detection of light and the associated quantum mechanics principles, including entanglement and wavefunctions.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the validity of the claim that an image can be obtained without detecting light, arguing that the definition of "image" requires detection.
  • One participant suggests that the image is constructed from light that has not illuminated the object, rather than from undetected photons.
  • There is a discussion about the nature of entanglement, with some asserting that it does not allow for faster-than-light information transfer, while others clarify that the experiment does not attempt to achieve this.
  • Participants mention the clever statistical methods used in the experiment, particularly how red and infrared photons share a wavefunction.
  • References to the original article and related literature are provided, including links to the arXiv and Nature publications.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the interpretation of imaging without detection, leading to an unresolved debate regarding the definitions and implications of the findings.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations in understanding arise from the dependence on specific definitions of "image" and the nuances of quantum mechanics that are not fully resolved in the discussion.

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Quantum imaging with undetected photons
... um no.
You cannot make an image from something that is not detected - that is not what "image" means.

What is claimed is: "the image has been obtained without ever detecting the light that was used to illuminate the imaged object"... so the image is not made out of undetected photons. It is constructed from the light that has not illuminated the object.

Note: every time you look at your shadow, you are getting an image from light that has not illuminated you. This is somewhat different though.

Normally by the entangled it is not possible to transfer information
... also not correct. You just cannot use entanglement to transfer information faster than the speed of light. The experiment does not do this.

It basically does a clever trick with the statistics - it exploits the way the red and infrared photons basically share a wavefunction.
 
Simon Bridge said:
It basically does a clever trick with the statistics - it exploits the way the red and infrared photons basically share a wavefunction.
Thank

I just found the article on arxiv : http://arxiv.org/pdf/1401.4318v2.pdf

Patrick
 
Wow, that't the first time I've seen a very good paper written with Word. However it's utmost ugly, as expected. If you can, take the published version from Nature. I'm still always impressed that nowadays the quantum opticians can really do all that "gedanken experiments" which worried Einstein so much :-)). The Nature article appeared this Thursday:

Gabriela Barreto Lemos, Victoria Borish, Garrett D. Cole, Sven Ramelow, Radek Lapkiewic & Anton Zeilinger, Nature 512, 409–412 (2014)
http://dx.doi.org/doi:10.1038/nature13586[/URL]

There's also a Nature News article on this paper:

[url]http://www.nature.com/news/entangled-photons-make-a-picture-from-a-paradox-1.15781[/url]
 
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