Quantum mechanical measurement (schrodinger's cat)-

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The discussion centers on a modified version of Schrödinger's cat thought experiment, where a camera records the state of the cat without direct observation. After one half-life of decay, the cat remains in a superposition of 'alive' and 'dead' until the chamber is opened, at which point the wave function collapses. The participants debate the implications of this scenario on the Copenhagen interpretation of quantum mechanics, questioning whether the camera's recording acts as a measurement that collapses the wave function without the need for a conscious observer. This raises critical questions about the nature of measurement and the role of consciousness in quantum mechanics.

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  • Understanding of quantum mechanics principles, particularly the Copenhagen interpretation.
  • Familiarity with the concept of wave function collapse.
  • Knowledge of superposition and its implications in quantum systems.
  • Basic grasp of thought experiments in physics, specifically Schrödinger's cat.
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  • Explore the implications of quantum measurement theory in "Quantum Mechanics: Concepts and Applications" by Nouredine Zettili.
  • Investigate the role of consciousness in quantum mechanics through "The Quantum Enigma: Physics Encounters Consciousness" by Bruce Rosenblum and Fred Kuttner.
  • Study the concept of decoherence and its impact on wave function collapse in quantum systems.
  • Examine alternative interpretations of quantum mechanics, such as the Many-Worlds Interpretation.
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1. Suppose in Schrödinger cat thought experiment we place a camera inside the chamber which record the events happening inside the chamber. (We are not watching inside the chamber through the camera during the period of experiment. It is just for recording purpose). After one half life of decaying material, we don’t know the state of the cat since we have not yet opened the chamber. For us, cat is in the superposed state of ‘alive’ and ‘dead’. As soon as we look inside the chamber, we make the wave function collapse to one definite state. Now, we take the camera out and watch the events which took place inside the chamber. By watching through the camera, we now know the state of the cat (and hence system) for the whole period of experiment. Hence, for whole period of experiment, we know the state of the system.
a. Tell me, how this is compatible with standard Copenhagen interpretation that we can’t know the state of the system (here cat) unless we have done the measurement.
b. In this modified thought experiment we know the state of the system even if we have not yet observed the system (though we know corresponding state not at present but only in future). Does it mean that our act of measurement in future is causing the wave function to collapse in past. (But it will also mean that recording of camera in past is dependent on our observation in future).
c. Or, we should think that camera is capable of collapse of wave function and we don’t need a conscious observer for it.
 
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Consciousness is never necessary to to the concept of measurement in quantum mechanics. In this particular case, the environment is measuring the state of the cat long before anyone opens to box.
 

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