Quantum Mechanics: Expression for electron density

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the expression for electron density in quantum mechanics, particularly as presented in Marder's Condensed Matter Physics. Participants explore the mathematical formulation and implications of the many-electron wavefunction in determining electron density.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion regarding the expression for electron density as given by Marder, specifically the integral involving the many-electron wavefunction.
  • Another participant suggests that the confusion may stem from being new to quantum mechanics and recommends Griffiths' book for further reading.
  • A participant clarifies that the expression involves taking the many-electron wavefunction, squaring it, and integrating over all but one of the coordinates, emphasizing the symmetry of the wavefunction.
  • There is a discussion about the normalization of the electron density, with a participant noting that the factor of N ensures the integral over the density equals the total number of electrons.
  • A later reply questions whether the integral represents the probability of finding an electron in any volume element, seeking confirmation of this interpretation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants have not reached a consensus on the interpretation of the integral related to the probability of finding an electron, as the question remains open for confirmation.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the symmetry of the wavefunction and the normalization of the electron density, which may depend on specific definitions and contexts not fully explored in the posts.

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I'm a little confused about the expression for the electron density.

For example in Marder's Condensed Matter Physics, he writes this

\rho(\vec{r}) = N \int \Psi^{*} \delta( \vec{r} - \vec{r}_1) \Psi d\vec{r}_1 \ldots d\vec{r}_N \deltawhat's going on?
 
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What are you confused about? If you're just getting started in QM you might want to pick up Griffiths book.
 
handsomecat said:
I'm a little confused about the expression for the electron density.

For example in Marder's Condensed Matter Physics, he writes this

\rho(\vec{r}) = N \int \Psi^{*} \delta( \vec{r} - \vec{r}_1) \Psi d\vec{r}_1 \ldots d\vec{r}_N \deltawhat's going on?

He's taking the many-electron wavefunction, squaring it, and integrating over all but one of the coordinates.
I.e.,
<br /> \rho(\vec r) \equiv N \int d^3r_2 d^3r_3 d^3r_4\ldots d^3r_N |\Psi(\vec r,\vec r_2,\vec r_3,\vec r_4,\ldots,\vec r_N)|^2<br />
it desn't matter which one is singled out because the wavefunction is either symmetric or antisymmetric in all it's coordinates and thus the squared wavefunction is symmetric in it's coordinates. multiplication by N is because we want rho normalized such that
\int d^3r \rho = N
rather than normalized to 1.
 
Ah thank you! So am I right to say that this integral

<br /> \int d^3r_2 d^3r_3 d^3r_4\ldots d^3r_N |\Psi(\vec r,\vec r_2,\vec r_3,\vec r_4,\ldots,\vec r_N)|^2<br />

is just the probability of finding an electron in any volume element?
 

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