Quantum mechanics - Find S_x and S_y

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The discussion revolves around finding the operators S_x and S_y in quantum mechanics, specifically addressing a confusion regarding the derivation of a factor of 1/2 in the context of linear algebra and operator manipulation.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the relationship between the operators S_x and S_y using the expression for S_±. There is a focus on the algebraic manipulation required to isolate these operators and understand the origin of the factor of 1/2.

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Some participants have offered algebraic suggestions to clarify the derivation of the factor in question. There appears to be a productive exchange of ideas, with one participant expressing progress in understanding after engaging with the algebraic steps.

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There is an indication that the original poster may have gaps in their linear algebra knowledge, which could be influencing their understanding of the problem. The discussion also hints at the need for a matrix representation of the operators involved.

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Homework Statement
Lecture slide (see photo)
Relevant Equations
See second last row on picture
I have a lecture slide that shows how to find S_x and S_y. I get all the steps except the last row.
Where did 1/2 come from? I think my linear algebra needs polishing.

Thanks!

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Have you tried to use ##\hat S_{\pm} = \hat S_x \pm i\hat S_y## to solve for ##\hat S_x## and ##\hat S_y##?

I suggest that if you do the algebra yourself, you'll see where the ##\frac 1 2## arises.
 
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PeroK said:
Have you tried to use ##\hat S_{\pm} = \hat S_x \pm i\hat S_y## to solve for ##\hat S_x## and ##\hat S_y##?

I suggest that if you do the algebra yourself, you'll see where the ##\frac 1 2## arises.
Thanks. I have, and I get something like this:
I think what confuses me is the algebra.
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$$S_+ + S_- = (S_x + iS_y) + (S_x - iS_y) = ?$$
 
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It is basically just a system of equations
##A = x + \mathrm{i}y##
##B = x -\mathrm{i}y##
solve for ##x## and ##y## in terms of ##A## and ##B##
 
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Aha thanks a lot! Got it!
 
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and then when you are done with that, insert the matrices, and find the final matrix representation of those operators.
 
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