(Quantum Mechanics) Infinite Square Well

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a problem from Griffiths' Introduction to Quantum Mechanics regarding the normalization of a wave function for a particle in an infinite square well. The initial wave function is given as Ψ(x,0) = Ax(a-x), and participants are attempting to find the normalization constant A.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the normalization process and the integral required to find A. Some express confusion over the differences in normalization constants for different wave functions, particularly comparing the given function to the sine function used in other contexts.
  • There is also a related inquiry about proving a property of orthogonality for wave functions, with participants questioning the limits of integration and the implications of extending those limits beyond the defined range of the wave functions.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants clarifying misunderstandings about the problem setup and the appropriate limits for integration. Some guidance has been provided regarding the differences in wave functions and their normalization, but no consensus has been reached on the specific normalization constant for the initial wave function.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the wave function is defined only within the range of 0 to a, and there is acknowledgment of the need to adhere to this constraint when performing integrations. The discussion highlights the importance of recognizing the specific conditions of the problem being addressed.

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Hi, I'm stuck in this Griffiths' Introduction to QM problem (#2.8)

Homework Statement


A particle in the infinite square well has the initial wave function

\Psi(x,0) = Ax(a-x)

Normalize \Psi(x,0)


Homework Equations


\int_{0}^{a} |\Psi(x)|^2 dx = 1


The Attempt at a Solution


Haha, this is supposed to be the least of my problems but... doing

A^2 \int_{0}^{a} x^2 (a-x)^2 dx = 1
gives us A = \sqrt{\frac{30}{a^5}}.

When the correct answer is A = \sqrt{\frac{2}{a}}. I have no clue what I did wrong...
 
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The normalization constant A = sqrt(2/a) is appropriate for ψ(x) = A sin(nπx/a). Here you have ψ(x) = Ax(a-x). Different wavefunctions have different normalization constants.
 
Kuruman... indeed A = \sqrt{\frac{2}{a}} is appropriate for \psi as a sin function. But when checking the result i got, i found this solution for the exact same problem:

http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/6186/64732846.jpg

The integral limit is set to 0,a/2... I'm not sure why, and if this is correct. For now i'll stick with my solution

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By the way... (a correlated problem) trying to prove that: \int_{-\infty}^{\infty} \psi_n^*(x) \psi_m (x) dx = \delta_{n,m} (Kronecker delta).

For n = m, and \psi_n (x) = \sqrt{\frac{2}{a}} sin(\frac{n \pi x}{a}),\in \Re, I'm coming up with

\int_{-\infty}^{\infty} \psi_{n}^{2}(x) dx = \frac{-1}{a} cos(\frac{n\pi x}{a}) sin(\frac{n\pi x}{a})|_{-\infty}^{\infty} + \frac{1}{a} \int_{-\infty}^{\infty} dx

The first term goes to 0, but the second would result in 1 for like... \int_{0}^{a}, not \int_{-\infty}^{\infty}. Again... where am I messing up?
 
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emol1414 said:
Kuruman... indeed A = \sqrt{\frac{2}{a}} is appropriate for \psi as a sin function. But when checking the result i got, i found this solution for the exact same problem:

http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/6186/64732846.jpg

The integral limit is set to 0,a/2... I'm not sure why, and if this is correct. For now i'll stick with my solution
It is not the exact same problem. The problem above has yet a third wavefunction that is constant for 0≤x≤a/2 and zero everywhere else. That is the reason why the upper limit is set at a/2. If you extend the integral beyond a/2, you will be adding a whole bunch of zeroes since ψ(x) is zero, so you might as well use a/2 for the upper limit.

By the way... (a correlated problem) trying to prove that: \int_{-\infty}^{\infty} \psi_n^*(x) \psi_m (x) dx = \delta_{n,m} (Kronecker delta).

For n = m, and \psi_n (x) = \sqrt{\frac{2}{a}} sin(\frac{n \pi x}{a}),\in \Re, I'm coming up with

\int_{-\infty}^{\infty} \psi_{n}^{2}(x) dx = \frac{-1}{a} cos(\frac{n\pi x}{a}) sin(\frac{n\pi x}{a})|_{-\infty}^{\infty} + \frac{1}{a} \int_{-\infty}^{\infty} dx

The first term goes to 0, but the second would result in 1 for like... \int_{0}^{a}, not \int_{-\infty}^{\infty}. Again... where am I messing up?
Here I assume that you are using particle-in-the-box wavefunctions. All of them are zero for x≤0 and x≥a. What do you think your limits of integration ought to be?
 
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Hmm, ok! So it's a different problem

It makes sense now, I forgot the conditions... You're right, it is \int_{0}^{a}!
Thank you
 

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